Anyone ever fragged Zoas in the tank?

Discussion in 'Coral' started by Bruce Spiegelman, Feb 4, 2018.

  1. Bruce Spiegelman

    Bruce Spiegelman BOD

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2016
    Messages:
    3,000
    Likes Received:
    1,122
    I've got a bunch of colonies that are outgrowing others, but on rocks that aren't removable in the tank. Many of them have slightly elongated stems. Can I just cut the stem and ignore the mat? It should be easy to do with something like surgical scissors I'm thinking.

    I figure if I do just a few at a time while running carbon the 120 gallon DT shouldn't be adversely affected.
     
  2. tankguy

    tankguy BOD

    Joined:
    Dec 10, 2011
    Messages:
    2,719
    Likes Received:
    472
    Ive always done it outside of the tank. I believe there is a toxin that can come out of them
     
  3. JVU

    JVU Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2017
    Messages:
    636
    Likes Received:
    268
    I’m also interested in the answer to this. I’m growing a zoa garden on a large rock I’d rather not have to remove when it comes time to trim.

    For me it’s 2 questions:

    - If you cut the “stem” rather than the mat will they survive?
    - If you frag zoas in your tank with carbon and skimmer running are you risking the other inhabitants?


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
     
  4. Edgar Sandoval

    Edgar Sandoval Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2016
    Messages:
    417
    Likes Received:
    106
    Randy is a pro


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  5. Coral reefer

    Coral reefer President

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2010
    Messages:
    7,673
    Likes Received:
    1,145
    I'd say try to get a small chunk of the rock with the bone cutters rather than chopping the stem. I've done it in tank plenty. No worries imo. Maybe if you are cutting a ton it could be an issue.
     
    JVU likes this.
  6. Kremis

    Kremis Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2016
    Messages:
    573
    Likes Received:
    112
    did it once because was curious and cut the stem halfway on a rasta, it survived and started making baby polyps around it after 2 weeks.
    I normally frag zoas in the tank, and either by using bone cutters or by using my finger nails and digging underneath the polyp and pulling it off.
     
    JVU likes this.
  7. Coral reefer

    Coral reefer President

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2010
    Messages:
    7,673
    Likes Received:
    1,145
    Not safe to use you fingers. I would seriously avoid that.
     
    RandyC likes this.
  8. jorahx4

    jorahx4 Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2017
    Messages:
    652
    Likes Received:
    153
    Why not safe?


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  9. Kremis

    Kremis Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 2016
    Messages:
    573
    Likes Received:
    112
    because zoanthids contain a toxin known as palytoxin that is extremely dangerous. if you touch zoas make sure you wash your hands thoroughly and dont touch your face etc
     
  10. Bruce Spiegelman

    Bruce Spiegelman BOD

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2016
    Messages:
    3,000
    Likes Received:
    1,122
    Okay -- so the takeaway from this is it's okay and a reasonable practice to use bonecutters and clip the stem of a few at a time to prune back? Especially in a larger system?
     
  11. ashburn2k

    ashburn2k Webmaster

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2016
    Messages:
    2,094
    Likes Received:
    412
    I did cut some of my palys everything is fine since then


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
     
  12. Bruce Spiegelman

    Bruce Spiegelman BOD

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2016
    Messages:
    3,000
    Likes Received:
    1,122
    Ok -- I cut four tonight. Two Kedd's Reds and Two Sunny D's. I would have liked to do more, but found out I only had four small frag plugs left. If it works it's an easy way to frag. I used bone cutters which makes it easy to grasp under the head. If I keep doing it this way though I think I need a new sharp pair of bonecutters. Mine have been used to cut too much rock and stuff over the last few years so that made it a little tough.
     

Share This Page