Current 48"x24"20" project

Discussion in 'Tank Journals' started by melly mel, Jan 9, 2010.

  1. melly mel

    melly mel Guest

    I been planning for a while now how I'd like my next tank to be like and finally came up with something I thought would be pretty cool. I'm planning it to be 48"X24"X20" (100 GALLON) Rimless or eurobraced, 1/2" or 3/4". Got a quick quote from a local builder last week and I want to finalize it soon. Heres some drawings I did.
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    At first, I wanted to do an external overflow but I really dont want the tank to stick out too far in my tank room so i decided to make it internal stretching the length of the tank like a false wall. each corner will be sectioned off, sand or rock rubble will be added halfway or 3/4" up to the top to grow mangroves. I love the way tanks look with the mangroves growing out of the overflows!
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    Sorry this pic is very deceiving. it looks like smaller boxes in the corner mangrove sections but in actuality should be the same exact depth as the overflow section in the middle.

    So the concept is water will drain from the display simultaniously into overflow and mangrove sections, then the mangrove section flows into the overflow section. The cutouts from the mangrove section to the overflow section will be lower than the teeth from the main wall. The mangrove corners will have fewer teeth so the water will come in at a slower rate (or atleast thats what i want to happen).
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    Over flow section will house dual 1" drains on each corner and the return in the center. Left one will be main drain and the right one will be slightly taller and act as a emergency drain in the event the main one plugs up for some reason. Not sure what size return should be. Can anyone make a suggestion? I want a slow turnover rate to get maximum filtration in the sump. Still not sure either how i want to configure the return and would like for a really clean look but figure loclines going over the center baffles will work.
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    This is what i have so far. Please let me know if you have any suggestions on anything i should change out, what may not work, etc etc. Your thoughts are greatly appreciated!
     
  2. melly mel

    melly mel Guest

    Thanks Gresham for the help on exporting! :)
     
  3. melly mel

    melly mel Guest

    Phong, still going over the finer details. I will most likely go with 1" acrylic if i go rimless. I haven't really thought out how the eurobrace would be configured since I'm leaning more towards a rimless look.
     
  4. Elite

    Elite Guest

    even at 1", I don't think it's thick enough for tank that size. 48" is pretty long. You might want to check with Gen for his opinion. 1" acrylic is quite expensive too.
     
  5. Elite

    Elite Guest

    Is it going to be glass or acrylic? I don't think you can go trimless using 3/4" acrylic. Eurobrace could be a problem for the back. How are you going to put the brace on the back with that configuration?
     
  6. Roc

    Roc Guest

    looks cool, but it seems like you would lose a lot of space going top to bottom with that false wall, why not just do a coast to coast and keep some more room in the tank
     
  7. GreshamH

    GreshamH Guest

    so the outer two wells are for the mangroves?

    IMO/IME...I would think twice about doing so a deep sand bed or gravel/rubble pile in there. You won't get enough flow to keep the sand bed cool and the others will become a nasty detritus sink hole. You don't need substrate for them, they can grow with no media :) to keep them in place you could glue a Key Largo rock to the side (they have tons of holes).
     
  8. melly mel

    melly mel Guest

    Good point Imus. I would be losing alot of real estate in the tank with the false wall. My original plan was a coast to coast but wanted to get feed back on this design. Thanks for the input.
     
  9. melly mel

    melly mel Guest

    Yes there for the mangroves. I was under the impression they needed some type of substrate. Since they don't then I will most likely go with your suggestion and stick a piece of rock in the overflow with my other design.

    Just curios, how much flow would be needed to keep the sand bed cool? And what do you mean by that? :~ I just figured adding sand in there would work like having a remote dsb. in other words this type of application will lead to more problems later on down the road?
     
  10. GreshamH

    GreshamH Guest

    By cool I meant OK. With no real major flow across it and being so deep I would suspect you'd have a problem with the sand bed going foul. If you want a DSB run it remotely in a bucket so you can get more flow across it and be able to get to it if you need to change it.
     
  11. Gomer

    Gomer Honorary Member

    Is there enough room to actually get the bulkhead hardware down in the back and tightened?
     
  12. melly mel

    melly mel Guest

    Yeah, there is. The drawing ls deceiving. Area looks tight but it will actually be roomy.

    Im gonna go ahead and make out a new drawing with an external o.f. Thought about it and I would love alot more open space in the tank. Any suggestions on what would be the best configuration for an external?? drain/return placement, go length of the tank etc etc? I'll be adding eurobracing so should the return outlet go over the bracing or drilled thru the wall from the O.F?
     
  13. GreshamH

    GreshamH Guest

    Drilled through the back wall IMO. I like center external OF's myself. Mine 4x2x2 has an center external overflow with a dry well as well. I wouldn't go the entire length as that would most likely be a negative in terms of structural integrity. I think mine is 12" wide with two 1" bulkheads.
     
  14. melly mel

    melly mel Guest

    What size should the hole be for the return? I'd like to use loc lines for the return.
     
  15. CookieJar

    CookieJar Guest

    One thing to keep in mind is will you be able to access and retrieve any wayward fish in the overflow? It looks quite narrow and difficult to get a net in.
     
  16. melly mel

    melly mel Guest

    Good point Bill, it would be a pain to try and catch any fish that would happen to make it there. Im going back to my original plan of just going external. Alot easier and alot more space in the tank.
     
  17. external overflow look cleaner also is easier to created flow without OF getting in a way .

    Lapsan
     
  18. melly mel

    melly mel Guest

    Gresh, what the dims of your O.F box? How tall should the box be and what kind of drain pipe would be best? Im guessing a stockman standpipe would best fit an external?
     
  19. GreshamH

    GreshamH Guest

    Mine is 12 wide x 6 deep (front to back) x 24 tall I'm pretty sure.
     
  20. melly mel

    melly mel Guest

    Getting close to finalizing my plans and decided external box to be 14"x5"x6", 2x 1" stockman standpipes and 1/2" returns. Where do you guys suggest placement of return? Should i have it come from the sump, plumbed thru the o/f then drilled thru the back center of the tank or come from the sump, t'd off and drilled on each top corner of the back?
     

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