Ecobak | Bio Pellets ?

Discussion in 'Propagation' started by yellojello, Jul 27, 2010.

  1. yellojello

    yellojello Supporting Member

    I've been reading around various forums about these vodka pellets or bio pellets, etc... but I can't quite put it together into my head.

    Does this replace both GFO and Carbon, or only GFO?

    Also, these are supposed to last a pretty long time? 6 months to 1 1/2 years before requiring replacing?
     
  2. GreshamH

    GreshamH Guest

    GFO. Carbon is not used for nitrate or PO4 removal. IIRC GAC has a very limited capacity for removing nitrates, like little to none.
     
  3. Coral reefer

    Coral reefer President

    Carbon won't remove nitrates, but it will sequester particles before they can break down and become nitrates right?
     
  4. GreshamH

    GreshamH Guest

  5. GDawson

    GDawson Guest

    So which is supposed to be more efficient removing PO3? GFO or bio pellets?

    -Gregory
     
  6. tuberider

    tuberider Guest

    GFO *at this point* the jury is still out on bio-pellets.
     
  7. yellojello

    yellojello Supporting Member

    GFO is a proven method, but changing media out once or twice a year instead of once a month would be nice.

    Also following the rice experiments, which would be really cool, and cheap.

    I just bought another gallon of GFO, so hopefully after this batch, there will be more results for the other stuff.
     
  8. GreshamH

    GreshamH Guest

    I have EcoBak but I have not yet played with it. I know several of the Beta testers and all have only good things to say about it and it's effectiveness. FWIW they had it for like 6 months prior to the release so that would be like 9-10 months of use for them.
     
  9. r0ck0

    r0ck0 Guest

    Why is it a mystery if it works? Its scientifically proven, been used for waste water treatment. Am I missing something?

    Edit:
    Just found this article:
    Biological denitrification of drinking water using newspaper
    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6V73-3Y0S4NF-37&_user=10&_coverDate=04%2F30%2F1996&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_searchStrId=1414835337&_rerunOrigin=scholar.google&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=6a85dbfd775740cd08836beea318c0d7

    Who wants to try used newspapers?
     
  10. GreshamH

    GreshamH Guest

    Yes science says it works, but how does that explain all the reported cases of it not doing much that have been posted on the internet? I have seen this division between science and aquaria on numerous occasions.

    Another thing to note is while it works for waste water treatment (FW) it very well may not be good in closed systems of which consist of very delicate animals that live in saltwater.
     
  11. Thales

    Thales Past President

    Right now, the amount to use for solid carbon dosing, and how exactly to use it in our applications, is up in the air.
    There is apparently a way to 'recharge' GFO.
     
  12. GreshamH

    GreshamH Guest

    EcoBak has solid recommendations from the manufacturer on both amount and how to use it Rich.
     
  13. Thales

    Thales Past President

    I didn't say the manufacturers didn't have recommendations...
     
  14. GreshamH

    GreshamH Guest

    His were arrived at via beta testing, much more then I can say for most other brands who found a source and pushed it out the door untested ;)
     

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