Finally! Alk monitoring

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  1. Vhuang168

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    Here's jim welsh in rich ross's secret lab looking at the prototype alk monitor.

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    So does anyone know if Jim Welsh is going to scoop Mindstream on alkalinity monitoring or will this be a charitable open source semi-buy and build kinda thing.
     
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    Jim technique is based on titration method (he mentioned using reagent), I think he just automated it. Mindstream technique is completely different. They use flourescent technology. I am sure there's a lot of pros and cons to both methods so I am kinda excited to see how they'll stack up to each other. Really exciting time ahead in the next few months for sure.
     
  5. Newjack

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    Did I hear someone say "group buy"?
    put me down for one :D
     
  6. Ibn

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    Been tracking this for 2+ months now with money in hand.
     
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    Titration, nice!

    Hmm, I thought mindstream was planning to measure PH and CO2 (using IR sensor), then calculates Alk.
    As a bonus, they get Carbonate Alk that way, not just total.
    But I could be very wrong.
     
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    Vincerama2 Evil Overlord

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    I see, so one plans to use some sort of probe, you dip it in your tank and it tells you. The other is you put a water sample into some device and then it teslls you.

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  9. Flagg37

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    I don't think you put the water sample in. I think it has a continuous feed and checks the water automatically at prescribed intervals.
     
  10. kalare

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    At MACNA 2016, was at the morning APEX breakfast and Rich Ross gave a small talk, mentioned this item and that he loves it. They have no idea when/if it will come to market and what the cost would be, so unfortunately don't get your hopes up. It does use special reagent and auto titrates every 15 minutes I believe with accuracy to the hundredth.
     
  11. Vhuang168

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    rygh and coral4me like this.
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    Hmm I didn't see him at MACNA, was he only doing a talk? I did recall hearing someone talk about it (maybe it was Rich) and I did hear that you could do quicker tests it just uses the reagents up that much quicker.
     
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    Video on the tester at macna

     
  14. Newjack

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    looks like its still sometime before its can be mass produced and hits the market
     
  15. sfsuphysics

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    Oh absolutely, no way this is coming out anytime soon
     
  16. Flagg37

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    That's genius to use the same voltage that the pH probe uses.
     
  17. Newjack

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    I know, how smart is that. I know I've got at least 1 or 2 of the old pin point PH meters laying around in my junk drawer. They would be perfect for that.
     
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    It doesn't use the pH probe itself just the same kind of wire.
     
  19. Vhuang168

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    He is saying he can use the ph monitor as an Alk monitor.


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  20. Flagg37

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    Ah, gotcha. I missunderstood
     

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