Fungiid Propagation Experiments

Discussion in 'Propagation' started by Mr. Ugly, Feb 24, 2010.

  1. Mr. Ugly

    Mr. Ugly Past President

    Place holder for an idea that's been bouncing around for a few years.

    If you are interested in doing some cool propagation experiments with fungiids, join the team here :D

    Some reading to start you off.

    Info on regeneration in fungiids.
    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&rls=com.microsoft%3Aen-us&q=fungia+regeneration+&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=

    Fungiid info from Wet Web Media.
    http://www.wetwebmedia.com/fungiidae.htm

    Ok... editing this post to include an index to fungiid related stuff.
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    Eric's experiment.
    http://www.bareefers.org/home/node/9738
     
  2. Sfork

    Sfork Guest

    I've seen these guys at the lfs but never thought much of them, are they hardy?
     
  3. zepplock

    zepplock Guest

    I have fragged fungia before. Just cut it to 4 pieces. All of them survived and grew for 1/2 year. Later I gave 2 away during a swap/trade and 2 more to a friend coz I was moving my tank (stupid fumigation).

    Those fungia I had came from 2007(?) Bar frag swap and were on a large rock and each were 1/2 to 1/4 inch.
    Eventually they grew to 3-4 in - mainly (I think) due to direct feeding every 2-3 days. I was giving them some Rod's food and chopped raw shrimp.

    I'd love to try same experiment on a more scientific basis ;-)

    p.s. I hope my Alk issues are behind me.
     
  4. Mr. Ugly

    Mr. Ugly Past President

    Heliofungia not so much, but the others do well.

    Check out the WWM link added to the first post.
     
  5. Mr. Ugly

    Mr. Ugly Past President

    Cutting works well.

    I was hoping to get some people to try some other methods.

    One being to generate babies from the tissue left when a plate detaches from its substrate.

    It would be interesting to develop some effective methods based on that characteristic.
     
  6. tuberider

    tuberider Guest

    I've also found that damaged plates spit off babies, I have a purple Cycloseris with a few babies on it that I rescued a while back, the pups are almost ready to be popped off. After that I'm imagining that more pups will follow from the same damage point, you guys will know when you see the DBTC post :D
     
  7. Mr. Ugly

    Mr. Ugly Past President

  8. Mr. Ugly

    Mr. Ugly Past President

    Another method I'd like to try is to remove a narrow strip of tissue from the upper surface.

    I saw some research where the tissue was put on some culture media and it reorganized into a circular ball and formed a mouth.

    Would be interesting to try something similar. Also wondering if a large enough piece of tissue could do ok without culture media. Might be able to absorb part of itself in order to heal and regenerate.

    Also, the plate can heal over where the strip was removed. Or if it doesn't, it can produce babies from the damaged area like in the wild.
     
  9. Mr. Ugly

    Mr. Ugly Past President

    Also would be interesting to try similar stuff with lps that tend to do polyp bailout.

    Wondering if a partial polyp can recover. And if so, how much tissue is necessary. And which lps can do this.

    Yah... trying to see if we can get away from lopsided sawed frags :D
     
  10. tuberider

    tuberider Guest

    Considering I've taken LPS bailouts and had them recruit without any media, we really don't know what's possible. AFA culture media, what type are you referring to?
     
  11. Mr. Ugly

    Mr. Ugly Past President

    Need to find the article.

    Some kind of gel with nutrients, electrolytes, and whatever that they put in culture dishes.

    Should be among the papers in the first link of the first post.
     
  12. zepplock

    zepplock Guest

    Yeah, I had that too. Originally I glues fungia to rock and it detached. I think keeping it suspended will entice it to leave a baby and jump ;-)
     
  13. tuberider

    tuberider Guest

    Brawndo?
     
  14. Gomer

    Gomer Honorary Member

    Its got what corals crave!
     
  15. LordHelmet

    LordHelmet Supporting Member

    Brondo! that will work.

    On a serious note, i have never seen a Fungia drop a baby off, Do you have to damage it to get it to start?
     
  16. GreshamH

    GreshamH Guest

    And here I was thinking, cool I get to say Brawndo...

    :(
     
  17. tuberider

    tuberider Guest

    You can say "it's the thirst mutilator"
     
  18. Sfork

    Sfork Guest

    Contributing!

    [img width=800 height=600]http://sfork.net/nanoreef/ebaypicfung.JPG[/img]

    [img width=800 height=600]http://www.sfork.net/nanoreef/DSCF1146.JPG[/img]

    [img width=800 height=600]http://www.sfork.net/nanoreef/DSCF1147.JPG[/img]

    [img width=800 height=600]http://www.sfork.net/nanoreef/DSCF1148.JPG[/img]

    [img width=800 height=600]http://www.sfork.net/nanoreef/DSCF1149.JPG[/img]

    screened it off so nothing would try to eat the random flesh on glue treat.
     
  19. patrickb

    patrickb Supporting Member

    Looks good Sfork. Very curious to see how this works out.
     
  20. Sfork

    Sfork Guest

    woops i meant to post this in ibn's thread oh well...
     

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