Green Marine closing soon

Discussion in 'Other Reef Talk' started by xcaret, Dec 11, 2010.

  1. xcaret

    xcaret Guest

    I stopped today at GM; seems he's closing the store; man I feel bad...
  2. sfboarders

    sfboarders Guest

    I had a feeling it would be closing. Especially after reading a negative post on RC. :(
  3. 99sf

    99sf Guest

    I stopped by yesterday and bought a couple of pieces of coral--learned the same information about the closure at the end of January. It's a shame that a purely captive-bred reef shop is closing.
  4. GDawson

    GDawson Guest

    Sad :(

  5. yardartist

    yardartist Guest

    Until then he is loaded with clownfish in multiple varieties, and small sizes for the most part. Find a way to support the store and the closure will keep getting pushed back. Shawn was planning to close a month ago and he is still getting a little business. He is doing a great solo job given his limited industry knowledge.

    I'm partial in that it is local for me. Good to see BAR members make it in there.
  6. Crabby

    Crabby Guest

    I stopped by today for a moment - there are a lot of cool CB fish and nice corals available!
  7. ryanjiang

    ryanjiang Guest

    I had the same feeling before, I doubt from the beginning about the business model. Hobby is hobby, business has to make profit. SW is a niche-market, the low volume nature just don't support low margin business model, esp. for LFS.

    But is there really negative post? I thought everything I read about GM is great.
  8. Qwiv

    Qwiv Guest

    The tanks were looking poor for a while and heard of some pests. Looks like someone is there helping out and everything is looking much better. I dont want to see this place go. You can't beat the prices!!

    I picked up some good deals there.
  9. ryanjiang

    ryanjiang Guest

    Just join BAR membership, you will be amazed by the quality of DTBC program. IMO BAR is in fact a bigger, better, virtue green marine.
  10. JRocha

    JRocha Supporting Member

    I donated a few sps colonies to GM a few weeks ago and he was trying to clean up the tanks that were left in shambles. they have nice corals , but they have to color up again. unfortunately he is running out of time. its too bad prices are great.
  11. BigMac

    BigMac Guest

    Some of my most colorful pieces came from GM.

    Too dang bad I live so dang far away.

    The truth is, he could up his frag price 50% and still be a deal.
  12. GreshamH

    GreshamH Guest

    The business model worked. What doesnt work is when the partner that is the entire knowledge base parts ways and the partner left is not only trying to learn to run a businesss, hes also trying to learn to be a hobbyist at the same time.

    I have seen low volume high quality lfs make it all over the US and even here ib the bay area.
  13. Euphyllia

    Euphyllia Guest

    I can't believe they're closing. :(
    Will he still make ORA orders after christmas? I NEED to get an ORA Red Mandarinfish. :(
  14. sfsuphysics

    sfsuphysics Supporting Member

    Do you see low volume low price also succeed though?
  15. CookieJar

    CookieJar Guest


    How many $10 frags a month must be sold to at least break even with rent, utilities, supplies, fees, etc. I've admired their captive bred philosophy and low prices but can a storefront business be run as such?
  16. ryanjiang

    ryanjiang Guest


    Thumb up for the philosophy & question on model.

    Let's assume the selling volume can reach the break even point, given the existing low price practice, the volume has to be huge. Do you think there is enough supply to support the monthly selling volume? How many ORA product can you order? how many frags can hobbyist produce? Corals do not grow up like weeds really.
  17. euod

    euod Supporting Member

    I think we are jumping the gun here. Green Marine has not made any formal statement on this issue and it is over?.... Like any business, it requires hard work, love, and positive words of mouth and I have to give it to Shaun that he has made quite an improvement and progresses on the business and the products since inheriting the GM in a short time. He may be discourage at time, but he is more encouraged by the support of the community and BAR, and I think with more support, he will head into the new year on a better note.
  18. JAR

    JAR Supporting Member

    well said!
    We should all try to get in there and give them words of encouragement.
    Oh yeah, and buy something.
  19. Thales

    Thales Past President


    A lot

    Don't forget that the model involved small frags. They were getting over 100 from me every other month.
  20. ryanjiang

    ryanjiang Guest

    How many ORA product available let's say when a customer step into a LFS randomly? Most of time you have to special order a product, availability is unknown till store calls ORA. Many product have limitation on quantity of order. All these look to me there is no steady supply from ORA.

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