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Discussion in 'Tank Journals' started by kinetic, Sep 8, 2017.

  1. rygh

    rygh Supporting Member

    A ULNS deliberately very carefully limits nutrients on the input.
    What you have is rampant Dinos that are eating everything like crazy, leaving no nutrients left in the water to detect.
    You see exactly the same with big hair algae problems, etc.

    Sad about the hawfish.
    You might want to check for ammonia. With dinos/etc dying, that might be up.

    I would suggest just restarting. Sounds like minimal livestock.

    For the rocks: Cleaning + bleach is step 1.
    I would soak those in tap water with vinegar (or muriatic acid) for a couple of days, to break up surface crud.
    Then soak in tap water + lanthanum chloride, to soak up phosphates.

    You need to eliminate the dinos, sure, but you also need to eliminate nutrients/etc from the rocks.
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  2. kinetic

    kinetic Webmaster

    I'm also not sure if I'd restart after doing the whole breakdown =(

    I may be moving in a year or two, so I might just put a pause on a system until then.
  3. kinetic

    kinetic Webmaster

    Oh that's very true! Great, I will just do the TTM on the fish. I'm thinking maybe also separately for the anemones? They hold quite a bit of water in them.

    Yes, thank you, that makes sense. The rocks steps sound great.
  4. Gablami

    Gablami Supporting Member

    I don’t get why you guys are talking about TTM and fallow periods. Why? No new livestock, no ich in the tank.

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  5. kinetic

    kinetic Webmaster

    Ah, well I never actually did TTM into the tank to begin with with my current livestock. The idea was that they were all tank raised (ORA, SA) but really, snails and such might have brought ich in (and even that hawkfish since that wasn't tank raised). Might be good just in case I have ich, rather than for dinos.
  6. rygh

    rygh Supporting Member

    TTM can also reduce the tank-cyling delays.
    Do TTM while you are cycling breeder tank. (Using chems to speed that up also)
    So you can start it all immediately if you want.
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  7. ashburn2k

    ashburn2k Webmaster

    Any update? Hope your Dino issue has been resolved.

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  8. kinetic

    kinetic Webmaster

    DinoX + NoPox + every 2 day water changes seem to be slowly keeping the dinos from growing too much, but still impossible to get rid of them completely.

    So two fish are dead now: female orchid dottyback (a day after she laid another batch of eggs), and my geometric pygmy hawkfish.

    So far, no more deaths even cleanup crew seem to be OK. My magnifica is wandering around quite a bit now, and the mocha davinci are trying to kill my third clown (they used to not bother with him at all, but I think with the added stress they are now pissed at everything).

    So far, dinos are winning. At some point I won't have any more dinos, or I won't have anymore livestock...

    My DinoX dosage was increased a tad, otherwise it had no effect. But because of that, things are definitely stressed.

    At this point I'm just going to keep dosing and zen the f* out when I do the water changes. If everything dies, I'm just going to break it down =P
  9. JVU

    JVU Supporting Member


    Have you looked into Vibrant? A lot of users on the forums are having success against dinos with it. I had bought it before for my previous tank, but never did use it yet so I don’t have personal experience.
  10. Kensington Reefer

    Kensington Reefer Supporting Member

    oh my!
    keep dong the water changes
    I would change half or more every two days for two weeks
    stop the dosing and add a UV
    I feel your pain and frustration
  11. Fish Boss

    Fish Boss Supporting Member

    Not sure if it is outdated knowledge, but i remember reading about people doing complete blackouts for 2-3 days and supposedly that worked against Dino’s. Of course, aggressive water change at the end of blackout
  12. scuzy

    scuzy Supporting Member

    Man that tank went from looking so clean to merging a redo in a hurry. Sorry man i say bleach everything.

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  13. kinetic

    kinetic Webmaster

    I'll keep the regiment up. So far the anemones aren't affected, (knock on wood).

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