Live Phyto Culture

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  1. sendo

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    Anyone culture live phyto? How difficult and time consuming is it?

    Any input would be much appreciated!
     
  2. fishtal

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    I used to culture live Nanno for breeding purposes but have switched to RotiGrow+ and RotiGreen. These products are more cost and time effective for my needs.

    Culturing basic, live phyto such as Nanno, isn't that difficult but it does take some time and effort. A lot depends on what you're culturing it for. I'll be discussing the pro's and con's of both next month. :)
     
  3. lattehiatus

    lattehiatus BOD

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    So glad you could join us here, Tal! We are looking forward to your talk next month.
     
  4. sendo

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    Hey Tal,

    I'll definately attend your talk next month. I'm thinking about trying to grow copepods to feed my fish and tried Tigger pods with phyto feast before, but crashed my culture. Overfeeding tends to be my downfall so my thought was that live phyto won't crash my culture if I happen to add too much.
     
  5. 650-IS350

    650-IS350 Supporting Member

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    I did something like this for a while..
    http://www.reeflounge.com/showthread.php?t=27634
    http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2002-07/ds/index.php
     
  6. BAYMAC

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    What you can grow easily (nano) is not consumed by copepods for the most part. NO need for live phytoplankton for Tigriopus californicus.

    I find peoples downfall is not feeding for the most part, but trying to culture in too small of a container, and with too low of DO. DO is very important to them and when its low, they don't do well.
     
  7. fishtal

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    I'm looking forward to meeting you guys next month. In the meantime, check out my site: http://www.fishtalpropagations.com/#!home/mainPage It is still under re-construction, long story, but my phyto information is there.

    As far as Tiggerpods go, I culture them outside in 20 and 30 gallon BRTs. They do best in the spring and fall. We had a really hot summer and the population declined but it's ramping up again and should be good until November.
     
  8. houser

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    Tal,
    Looking forward to your insights on foodstuffs. Spawning isn't necessarily the problem here, it's what are you going to use to feed them along the way.
     
  9. fishtal

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    Dave,

    Not quite sure what you mean...
     
  10. sendo

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    Maybe I used too small of a container (coolwhip containers). Would a 5 gallon bucket be better? What do you guys feed the copepods?
     
  11. bookfish

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    I use 10g glass tanks for food cultures, that gives me some room for neglect. I often lose cultures when I'm between batches of fry and forget to harvest and water change the cultures. I use Rotigrow + but I'd recommend Rotigrow complete for beginners. RG+ and RGC both grow rotifers, tiggers and brine shrimp just fine.
     
  12. BAYMAC

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    I think you mean RGcomplete ;)
    http://apbreed.com/product_rgcomplete.html

    There is no difference in performance between RG+ and RGC. The only difference is concentration (RG+ is 2/3 more dense) and the added benefit (with RGcomplete) of ClorAm-X and a pH buffer.
     
  13. bookfish

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    Personally I use RG+ but I'd recommend RGC for beginners.
     
  14. BAYMAC

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    There definitely is a time and place for both. You wouldn't want to use much RGC for greenwater given the pH buffer.
     
  15. bookfish

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    Good point and I hadn't considered it before but that may be the answer to something else I was wondering about too. thx
     

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