Phosphate and nitrate problem again

Discussion in 'Other Reef Talk' started by nly04, Nov 30, 2017.

  1. nly04

    nly04 Guest

    what is the most effective way to maintain PO4 and NO3? I am running to this problem time to time. I understand water change often is good way beside running GFO. Any new product or way to solve this issue?
     
  2. Coral reefer

    Coral reefer President

    Marine pure block for nitrate. Chaeto, in refugium or reactor. Nopox. Carbon dosing. Sulfur based denitrator.
    Auto water change through apex with the dos pumps. Algae scrubber. Take your pick.
     
  3. rygh

    rygh Supporting Member

    Tank size?
    It makes a big difference on the plan.

    What Mike said + reduce feeding.
     
  4. Coral reefer

    Coral reefer President

    And make sure your skimmer is working well and cleaned at least once a week.
     
  5. kinetic

    kinetic Webmaster

    + everything they said above, but also you could also investigate any other sources of nutrient buildup (sand that's trapping a bunch of detritus that can be "vacuumed" more, as an example)
     
  6. F6553066

    F6553066 Guest

    What are your perimeters? The measures you may need to take, as mentioned above, will depend on what you would like it achieve.

    Dick Flanagan
     
  7. JVU

    JVU Supporting Member

    NOPOX is the easiest and most fool-proof, I think it would work with any size and setup. If you have a refugium, make sure you have a powerful correct-spectrum light like the H380, it makes all the difference.

    If you have issues with both nitrate and phosphate, GFO isn’t great because it only addresses phosphate, leaving you out-of-balance.

    As mentioned by everyone, the details matter, your testing levels, tank size/setup.


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  8. daddio

    daddio Supporting Member

    What are you feeding your tank?
     
  9. Thales

    Thales Past President

    Are you chasing numbers or are you seeing actual problems?
     
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  10. roostertech

    roostertech reef noob

    +1 on nopox, chaeto, and GFO

    I change my gfo whenever I sand bed start turning green.
     
  11. nly04

    nly04 Guest

    Tank is 150gal with 75gal sump. RO water is 1ppm, i don’t measure NO3 or PO4 for a while but notice tank glass has more algae oftern than before. Most of my coral does not look healthy. I have a refugium in the first compartment where drain water from the tank back to the sump. My Reef octopus 3000 skimmer remove good amount of junk. I have 5 tangs, 5 clown and 10 other fishs.
     
  12. roostertech

    roostertech reef noob

    wow 5 tangs, how do you keep the peace lol
     
  13. scuzy

    scuzy Supporting Member

    I use a sulfur denitrator and also a good h380 fuge light and chaeto reactor. Works great in controlling my nutrients


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  14. Vhuang168

    Vhuang168 Supporting Member


    Size of tank counts a lot towards that.

    I have 4 tangs and there is no major aggression. There was some minor pecking order chasing (which the Desjardini sorted out very shortly) but it’s been quiet since.


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  15. Also depends on types of tangs and how and when they are introduced. It's pretty easy to find examples of, for instance, tanks with 4 or 5 yellow tangs together. My much smaller tank has four tangs in it, but only two have a similar body type and those two worked things out early on. In fact, I often see three of them swimming and picking at sand and rock together.
     
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  16. Coral reefer

    Coral reefer President

    My tank has... ok I'll just keep quiet, don't wanna alert the tang cops.
    But I do believe adding smaller different body shapes (or the same if that's what you're going to do) at the same time is a solid idea.
     
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  17. Yeah but there's no aggression with your Tangs simply because they can't move. You have 7 of them in a 16 gallon peninsula thank and they can't reach one another.
     
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  18. Coral reefer

    Coral reefer President

    Nor can they turn around
     
  19. Which completely solved the aggression issue. I applaud yuur solution to a husbandry issue.
     
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  20. Vhuang168

    Vhuang168 Supporting Member

    So THAT’s the key! I better go and get more tangs to totally eliminate any aggression. Do you think 1/2” per gallon will solve the issue?


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