Pyramid Butterfly – Reef safe?

Discussion in 'Fish and Invertebrates' started by GDawson, May 15, 2010.

  1. GDawson

    GDawson Guest

    Lots of talk on the net to support that, but would like someone with practical experience to chime in.

    -Gregory
     
  2. Kensington Reefer

    Kensington Reefer Supporting Member

    I have kept several of them though not in a reef tank. They are open water plankton feeders. Each fish is an individual and has its own personality. What size is the tank? If possible I would try a trio.
     
  3. GDawson

    GDawson Guest

    It's a 75gal tall with a 20 gal sump. Prolly not big enough. If three could fit with no other fish I'd consider that.

    -Gregory
     
  4. GreshamH

    GreshamH Guest

    I wouldn't do them/even one in a tank that size.
     
  5. GDawson

    GDawson Guest

    BTW - it hales from several places (Hawaii, Indonesia, and Papua New Guinea). Is one preferable over the other? Some pics show a black face and others show a yellow one. Is this location specific?

    -Gregory
     
  6. GreshamH

    GreshamH Guest

    HI or PNG
     
  7. GDawson

    GDawson Guest

    Size limitations or reef safe issues?

    If it's size limitations does any one have a suggestion on at least one "larger" fish that can be housed in a tank this size? Damsels, clowns, and wrasses are nice, but I'd like one stand out (if possible). If that can't be done than a suggestion on a smaller schooling fish?

    Blue and green chromis schools are nice but I've heard that their life expectancy is not the best in captivity. Is this true?

    I really want to do what's best for the fish. And with an empty tank right now I can plan appropriately.

    -Gregory
     
  8. Kensington Reefer

    Kensington Reefer Supporting Member

    I have a group of 7 A. Compressus cardinals.
     
  9. GDawson

    GDawson Guest

    Not bad looking. Are they pretty active?

    -Gregory
     
  10. Kensington Reefer

    Kensington Reefer Supporting Member

    Not active like a tang or b/fly. They hang as a group and then pair off for mating rituals. They are adults and I think your tank might be a bit small for all.
     
  11. Matt_Wandell

    Matt_Wandell Honorary Member

    I think a 75 would be fine for one Pyramid B'fly, maybe not so much for several. Assuming rockwork offers a lot of open space for swimming. They hang out in big shoals, so ideally you'd want a bunch of them together. They're always found in open water feeding on zooplankton. We have 25 (ish?) in our big tank and they cause no problems whatsoever.
     
  12. Matt_Wandell

    Matt_Wandell Honorary Member

    Oh, and the darker face occurs as they age. In juveniles the face is nearly as bright yellow as the body, like this:
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    There is also the Indian Ocean Pyramid B'fly (H. zoster) which has black instead of yellow on the body.
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  13. Elite

    Elite Guest

    What do they eat in our tank??
     
  14. Matt_Wandell

    Matt_Wandell Honorary Member

    "They're always found in open water feeding on zooplankton. We have 25 (ish?) in our big tank and they cause no problems whatsoever."

    Mysis, krill, flake, pellet, cyclops, etc.
     
  15. JRocha

    JRocha Supporting Member

    get a group of helfrich firefish or any firefish. colors are beautiful and have some cool personalities. such a mellow fish
     
  16. i try that before ,they're killing each other until there only two .i'm going try a group of royal grammas next.love to see that in group.:)




    lapsan
     
  17. GDawson

    GDawson Guest

    Nice fish.

    Anyone else have experience on housing more than two? Lapsan's comment worries me. Also are they jumpers...the tank is an open top.

    -Gregory
     
  18. JRocha

    JRocha Supporting Member

    well I know one person keeping 4 helfrichs in a 29 and they are doing ok for now but its only been a couple of weeks so I can't say that he's successful yet. I think all gobies are jumpers cause they get freaked out real easy.
     
  19. GreshamH

    GreshamH Guest

    There is always an exception to the rule BUT that does not make it the norm ;) Helfichs are more likely to be collected in a family group then that of normal ones.
     
  20. JRocha

    JRocha Supporting Member

    got it.
     

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