Reefer 170 reborn

Discussion in 'Tank Journals' started by Eugene, Jan 20, 2018.

  1. kinetic

    kinetic Guest

    Sorry to hear about the clown. When I had a small group in my 170, I would hear a splat once in awhile and find a clown had jumped out. I was so lucky to have been there. Anyway, I got a custom made OctoLid.
     
  2. Kim Pattison

    Kim Pattison Sponsor

    If you lost the little clown then the remaining clown is female. With the size of the tank you could add 2 clowns but do not add a bonded pair or the old female and the new female will battle it out. How ever many you add just be sure you do not add the biggest from the group they come from to be sure all the added fish are males.
     
  3. Eugene

    Eugene Supporting Member

    Made a rookie mistake and bought coral without research - LFS told that its photosynthetic but I think it’s not:

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    Last edited: Jun 7, 2018
  4. Coral reefer

    Coral reefer Past President

    Can't see pic
     
  5. Ibn

    Ibn Guest

    Pink orange carnation coral (Dendronephthya sp.). Definitely non-photosynthetic and needs to be heavily fed with the appropriate food.
     
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  6. Eugene

    Eugene Supporting Member

    That's what I thought... Should I return it back?
     
  7. Ibn

    Ibn Guest

    Not sure if that's possible. Most stores don't allow you to do that. You can try to argue that you were mislead into it being photosynthetic and see what happens.
     
  8. Coral reefer

    Coral reefer Past President

    I would maybe call and ask them first.
     
  9. Eugene

    Eugene Supporting Member

    My corals don't look good and I was wondering why - took a ICP test and guess what? Water is too clean - 0 nitrates, low phosphates, lack of some essential elements!
    Here is the link to test results: http://lab.atiaquaristik.com/share/f84dc2469c1f802ad2c6

    ATI recommends
    Add bromine and strontium. RO results will follow.
    Following ATI supplements should be applied in order to provide a stable water quality:
    • Brom supplement per day 29.75 ml for 5 days
    • Strontium supplement per day 25.32 ml for 3 days
    • Vanadium supplement per day 0.84 ml for 1 day
    • Mangan supplement per day 0.88 ml for 1 day
    • Iod supplement per day 0.25 ml for 3 days
    • Fluor supplement per day 20.40 ml for 5 days
    Now the question - what would be easiest way to get and dose those elements?
     
  10. Coral reefer

    Coral reefer Past President

    Do a very large water change, or a couple big ones over a few days.
     
  11. Eugene

    Eugene Supporting Member

    Will do, it surprise me - I’m changing 5 gal per week in 40gal tank , fritz salt - should be enough to replenish loss if salt has enought, isn’t it?
    Anyway - should I look at changing something besides water changes?
     
    Last edited: Jul 24, 2018
  12. Coral reefer

    Coral reefer Past President

    Guess it depends what else you're doing. Maybe remove phosphate absorbing media?
     
  13. Eugene

    Eugene Supporting Member

    No chemical filtering - only skimmer and 1 ml/day NoPox - it’s less than half recommended maintenance dose.


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  14. Ibn

    Ibn Guest

    Any reason you're continuing to run NoPox if you're bottoming out on nitrates/phosphates?
     
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  15. Eugene

    Eugene Supporting Member

    To keep phosphates low - so far it's stays constant 0.03 for half a year, and I feed a lot! IMHO it shouldn't affect micro elements like Iodine,Strontium,Fluoride etc.
     
  16. Ibn

    Ibn Guest

    I feed a ton too and my phosphates drift up. However, I don't worry about it and just let it do its thing. I rather let it drift up to detectable levels, alongside my nitrates, than to worry about starving the corals. My AFS goes on 1x a day and I feed 6-7 cubes of frozen on the weekdays. On the weekend, the AFS kicks in twice daily.

    Still bottoming out on nitrates at 0.2 ppm and phosphates at 0.03 ppm. Can't seem to grow chaeto either at the moment.
     
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  17. Coral reefer

    Coral reefer Past President

    Cut out the nopox in my opinion. It probably isn't effecting the trace minerals, but no reason to starve your corals...
     
  18. Eugene

    Eugene Supporting Member

    Some fts and new inhabitant:

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  19. Coral reefer

    Coral reefer Past President

    Looks good!
     
  20. rygh

    rygh BOD

    With big water changes like that, and not running carbon/gfo/etc, your trace elements
    should basically match your salt mix.
    My opinion : Don't worry about the trace elements. But if you want to, you may need to switch salt mix.

    Corals look pretty good to me!!
    But dosing Nitrates is easy (potassium nitrate or calcium nitrate) if you want.

    I am not sure I would drop nopox suddenly. Slow changes.
     

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