Rygh's 250 gallon - rev.2

Discussion in 'Tank Journals' started by rygh, Nov 7, 2014.

  1. wpeterson

    wpeterson Webmaster

    I'm happy to see a dartfish in there, I hope those guys are doing OK. I bet they're a lot happier in a bigger tank.
  2. rygh

    rygh Supporting Member

    Doing great.
    It is funny, two of them love to swim directly in the power-head stream.
    And not some little power-head either. It is a Magnum 7.
    I guess they like the exercise.

    The third one is very active, but does not really hang with the other two.
  3. anathema

    anathema Guest

    I thought dartfish typically paired up?
  4. rygh

    rygh Supporting Member

    Well, two of them are together a lot. I guess three is a crowd...
  5. MolaMola

    MolaMola Supporting Member

    I enjoyed seeing your recent photos. So interesting to follow your tank journal from all the experimenting with epoxy and sand. I look forward to continuing following as the rockwork matures.
  6. rygh

    rygh Supporting Member

    The sump-change project is finally getting going!

    The old mess:

    The new nice fancy sump/fuge was delivered by Gen. (Kritter tanks)

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  7. Coral reefer

    Coral reefer President

    I like the insulation!
  8. anathema

    anathema Guest


    Just read through the thread. If you want something that will encrust nicely and be interesting look in dbtc- softies for my "superman anthelia" the name is a joke but it's a xeniid that is much more manageable than xenia and not too bad looking.

    Ive got a frag plug of it going, or a pvc pipe covered with it.
    Last edited: Oct 10, 2015
  9. rygh

    rygh Supporting Member

    Great! I may try that. But probably best to wait until I do the big switch - which will likely take me 2-3 weeks.
  10. rygh

    rygh Supporting Member

    Plumbing for the two return pumps.
    I highly recommend the Marine Depot "Superflex" pipe.
    Far flexier than normal spa-flex pipe. But only in 1" size or smaller. The big stuff flexes, but not so great.
    That is why I switched the 1.25" pipe to dual 1"

    Flex pipe is so nice, since it is hard to measure/assemble rigid pipe perfectly.
    But another big advantage is that it does not carry vibrations as well either, which is
    important to me since I go through a wall that is right below our bedroom.

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  11. rygh

    rygh Supporting Member

    It is interesting what you find when disconnecting old plumbing. Notice the big crack.
    I always wondered why there was a bit of salt creep on this connection.
    This is also another reminder of why threaded connections should be avoided.
  12. rygh

    rygh Supporting Member

    New sump has water!!! :D
    Running well so far.
    Still need to plumb other return + overflow, and tons of other little things.
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  13. rygh

    rygh Supporting Member

    And my first flood with the new sump last night .... :oops:

    Silly mistake.
    I was in the middle of some plumbing, and just quickly hand-tightened a plug before bed.
    Well ... after a day of drip drip drip, there was a lot of water on the floor.
    I am SO glad this is all in the garage.
  14. rygh

    rygh Supporting Member

    And the other hassle - Noisy overflows!
    The height and flow changed, so it is really noisy now.
    So yet more things to tweak. Endless....
  15. Enderturtle

    Enderturtle Volunteer

    oh kritter tanks still make tanks? That's good to know.

    Sorry about the leak! Hope you fixed it. New sump looks much better and more functional.

    So the main tank is in a different room?
  16. rygh

    rygh Supporting Member

    Gen mentioned that Kritter does not make that many hobbyist tanks anymore, preferring commercial work.
    But he knows me from doing my main tank, and this was a simple + big build.

    Leak fix was easy - just screw in the plug tighter.

    New sump is SO much better for access and visibility.
    No more peering into the 4' depths with a flashlight.
    I found and old acrylic braket, a pretty good length of duct tape, and a screw (fortunately stainless) in the bottom of the old sump.
    Interestingly, the duct tape was still nice and shiny. Seems to repel marine life. Although not sure how old it was.

    New sump is also WAY quieter. The old one was wood, and resonated with the skimmer, amplifying it.

    Main tank is in the family room.
    Lots of pipes through the wall into the garage with the sump.
  17. rygh

    rygh Supporting Member

    New Electronics Plan!

    I am currently running an Arduino based DIY Controller.
    But I have to move it for the new sump, plus I want to add some functionality.
    And I managed to break something starting to extend it. Fortunately easily fixed.
    So I need a new plan.

    The key theory : I should not waste my time re-inventing a standard controller, but
    instead focusing on special add-on electronics.

    It is a mess that needed to be cleaned up anyway.
    Doing it the first time was fun! Doing it over again is just work.
    Having something completely separate to monitor parameters is a nice redundancy.

    So: I plan to just buy a controller for the normal things. :(
    Then DIY my special water-exchange-Alk idea, and gas-heater-controls, etc.:)

    This is the current mess.
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  18. rygh

    rygh Supporting Member

    Of course, that brings up the ageless question: what controller to buy??

    My needs:
    6+ relays
    Salinity probe (to check on water exchange)
    temp monitor
    Ethernet connection, to log and send warnings.
    PH is not really needed, but nice, and usually included.
    ORP would be fun, as a way to track sudden changes

    Fun, but not really available yet.
    Strangely quiet since Beta went out a few months ago.
    No track record.

    Fun, low cost.
    Needs lots of add on modules. (Flexible+ but Annoying-)
    Nice mini graphic display.
    Really programmable.
    I had one before I went DIY. Still have parts of it.
    But I am tired of Arduino.

    Really only adds ammonia. Which is a non-issue.
    Not really a controller.

    Well integrated, tons of support and options.
    Simple and boring. Good quality. Just works.
    Could use a nicer display.

    Medium cost. Needs lots of modules. Networking support needs work.
    A lot like ReefAngel, but more expensive, not as programmable, and no nice display.


    So for me, it comes down to ReefAngel versus Apex.
    A whole lot like deciding between a Linux PC and a Mac.
    And since I work at Apple ....
  19. Coral reefer

    Coral reefer President

    You work for the devil?
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  20. rygh

    rygh Supporting Member

    I am not allowed to discuss that. ;)
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