Sundial snails wanted.

Discussion in 'Fish and Invertebrates' started by JAR, Jan 4, 2010.

  1. JAR

    JAR Supporting Member

    I'm now looking for sundial snails to kill off a patch of invasive zoa's.
    Anyone have any of these pests?
     
  2. GreshamH

    GreshamH Guest

    Best option tends to be to ask LFS when they get new shipments, or go help them acclimate a shipment :) that's how I have gotten mine, and Matt's, in the past.
     
  3. Ibn

    Ibn Supporting Member

    LOL. I love the direction you're going with having a natural predator.
     
  4. GreshamH

    GreshamH Guest

    I posted years back on this. The method is rather cool and I owe my friend Matt (soon to be member) all the credit. You super glue some fishing line with super glue to the snail and only allow him access to what you don't want around anymore :)
     
  5. Ibn

    Ibn Supporting Member

    Dang, that's even better; good way to track that little sucker and move him around.
     
  6. sfsuphysics

    sfsuphysics Supporting Member

    So what exactly do sundials eat? Do they eat those ugly brown palythoas? or just the pretty zoanthids? :D

    As to the fishing line bit a stroke of genius! Just hope the snail isn't pre-pregnant and lays down eggs :D
     
  7. GreshamH

    GreshamH Guest

    Egg masses are super easy to find and kind rare to find from a sundial.

    They'll eat all of them, paly and zoa. There is a crab that may be even better that eats them but I don't recommend that.
     
  8. sfsuphysics

    sfsuphysics Supporting Member

    Oooh put me in line then I have one tank where I'm only trying to keep a couple leathers that are attached to rocks which are unfortunately covered in those brown and blue palythoas (the weedy kind not the cool kind).

    I assume the snails diets are very specific and they'll starve to death if there's no zoa/palys left.
     
  9. GreshamH

    GreshamH Guest

    assumption correct :)
     
  10. Apon

    Apon Volunteer

    now I want one too, I can easily remove/protect my few wanted zoos - but those brown palys need to go! I have been slowly kalking them away, but I can't always see them before they pop back up.
    Now find me something that eats brown mushrooms, and I will be a happy camper.
     
  11. GreshamH

    GreshamH Guest

    mushrooms? Matt found an answer for that as well. Heck, I need to get him on this forum so he can tell you.

    It's an orange sea slug the spits out HCL and then sucks it back up along with the melted critter
     
  12. Ibn

    Ibn Supporting Member

    Holy smokes, that's one sweet sounding sea slug.
     
  13. GreshamH

    GreshamH Guest

    I just did some poking around and IIRc it's a Berthellina sp. sea slug and they don't just eat mushrooms but plenty of other coral :( His only ate the mushrooms though... it came from the Sea of Cortez. There is no legal collection of them at the moment. When there is I will try them again.
     
  14. Apon

    Apon Volunteer

    Man you got my hopes up. :(
     
  15. JAR

    JAR Supporting Member

    Anyone?
    Still looking...
     
  16. JAR

    JAR Supporting Member

    Bring em to the swap in your empty buckets. I'll take em! :bigsmile:
    Seriously :beer:
     
  17. GreshamH

    GreshamH Guest

    Jon I'll call a local importer and have his guy keep an eye out for them. Max got some stuff in last night, I'll ask his guy to search them as well.
     
  18. JAR

    JAR Supporting Member

    Your the best! :)
     
  19. LeslieH

    LeslieH Guest

    :D Not quite. The secretory glands are in the skin, usually on the back & along the sides. Side-gill slugs like Berthellina secrete the chemicals as a defense against predators. They don't use it to acquire food.

    It's quite funny to see a fish scoop up then spit out one of these, kinda like someone biting into a too hot chile!
     
  20. GreshamH

    GreshamH Guest

    We watched one several times puke something out over a mushroom, liquefied it, then slurped it back up. While it may not be eating it, it sure removed them in short order :) It for sure came out of the mouth. We both thought the same thing, it's puking it's guts and dying. But nope, mushroom removed. I think Matt has pic's, I'll ask.
     

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