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  1. DEATH BY SNU SNU

    DEATH BY SNU SNU Supporting Member

    I have a tank lying around that I want to start a journal for. This will be a SPS dominant tank with a minimalist approach. I'm going to bare bottom and going to have a wrasse in there to take care of any pests that I might come across (even after Bayer dipping and Seachem Reef Dip, some still inevitably make it through). Question: Is pyrex safe for reef tanks? I'm going to put sand in it for the wrasses.
     
  2. Tmjvb

    Tmjvb Supporting Member

    Why barebottom?
    You could go with Pseudocheilinus wrasses which don’t require sand and are great at controlling certain pests.
     
  3. DEATH BY SNU SNU

    DEATH BY SNU SNU Supporting Member

    I'm trying bare bottom for the first time for easier detritus control. I want something that's not going to be a bully like a six line wrasse is..
     
  4. Tmjvb

    Tmjvb Supporting Member

    Ah, Pseudocheilinops ataenia would be perfect then :).
     
  5. DEATH BY SNU SNU

    DEATH BY SNU SNU Supporting Member

    Cool! only I have never seen Pink Streaked wrasse for sale anywhere....
     
  6. DEATH BY SNU SNU

    DEATH BY SNU SNU Supporting Member

    Oh I forgot the most important reason I'm going to BB. I want to crank up the flow!
     
  7. rygh

    rygh Supporting Member

    Note that you can also go "reef bottom" also.
    Buy starboard or acrylic that fits the bottom.
    Then use epoxy or concrete with sand and rock rubble to essentially create a full live-rock bottom on the plastic.
    Then just drip it. Add a bit of sand to cover any edges or joints.

    Many advantages of bare bottom, without the weird look.
     
  8. Bruce Spiegelman

    Bruce Spiegelman Supporting Member

    What he's trying to say is there are many species of wrasse that don't need sand. In a forty gallon tank you're actually even better off with a few of the Fairy wrasses (Cirrhilabrus wrasses.) Most only get 3-4 inches, many are very peaceful and they don't burrow.
     
  9. Ranjib Dey

    Ranjib Dey Webmaster

    you can opt for coarse grained sand.

    I would personally prefer bare bottom, lot easier on maintenance
     
  10. Tmjvb

    Tmjvb Supporting Member

    IMO
    Many wrasses in the genus Cirrhilabrus such as ones in the Cyanopluera, rubriventralis, and scottorum complexes will require a larger tank, as they get rather large and aggressive.
    However, as mentioned above Pseudocheilinops ataenia or any Wetmorella wrasse would be suitable as they stay small, do not burrow, and are rather peaceful.
     
    Last edited: Nov 6, 2017
  11. Bruce Spiegelman

    Bruce Spiegelman Supporting Member

    That's why I qualified with the Fairly wrasses. They do stay small and are for the most part peaceful. There's lots of them to choose from too.
     
  12. Bruce Spiegelman

    Bruce Spiegelman Supporting Member

    Good chart:
    Wrasse chart[1].png
     
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  13. Tmjvb

    Tmjvb Supporting Member

    The only Cirrhilabrus wrasse I would recommend to a 40 gallon would be C. earlei.
    All others will eventually outgrow the system.
     
  14. Bruce Spiegelman

    Bruce Spiegelman Supporting Member

    Ignoring the price of those how large do they get? Many of the other Cirrhilabrus (ie Flames, Lubbocks and others) stay under four inches don't they?
     
  15. Bruce Spiegelman

    Bruce Spiegelman Supporting Member

    But you're right -- the Pygmy's rule!
     
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  16. Tmjvb

    Tmjvb Supporting Member

    C. earlei generally stay under 4 inches but are - IME - less active swimmers than C. jordani, lubbocki, bathyphilus, etc which are more active/aggressive and therefore require more space.
     
  17. Bruce Spiegelman

    Bruce Spiegelman Supporting Member

    Gotcha! Thanks.
     
  18. DEATH BY SNU SNU

    DEATH BY SNU SNU Supporting Member

    This is such a great conversation. Thank you everyone who contributed to the conversation!.
     
  19. Tmjvb

    Tmjvb Supporting Member

    Lol..
    Sorry I kinda went off topic haha.
    IME pyrex is reef safe. I have used it for sand before and have a friend who is using it in his frag tank.
     
  20. Mark B

    Mark B Supporting Member

    If you go "bare bottom" wont it make the parachute kid uncomfortable?:D
     

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