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ware is teh good frogfish pr0nz???

Discussion in 'Breeding' started by Mr. Ugly, Nov 5, 2009.

  1. Mr. Ugly

    Mr. Ugly Past President

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    Got an email from Rachel Arnold who works with Dr. Ted Pietsch(the frogfish guru) asking about frogfish egg rafts described here:

    http://www.bareefers.org/home/node/314
    http://www.bareefers.org/home/node/316

    Apparently the 5 egg rafts produced by my pair of A. dorehensis a while back are the only known confirmation of a 1961 reference to spherical egg rafts in Antennarius. See the attached pdf.

    Frogfish egg rafts are typically described as scroll shaped. The ones produced by my pair were hollow spheres. I noted the difference compared to the usual description, but didn't realize that this type was relatively unknown.

    Anyway, I looked all over and found the original video tapes and converted the footage to about 400mb of wmv to send to the researchers.

    Here's the first of 3 files. Large format version of the previously posted spawning vid.

    http://rapidshare.com/files/303010777/frogfish_pr0Nz.wmv

    The other 2 show the egg rafts after they inflate. And also document the larval development.

    [edit - 11/6/09]

    Ok, here are the other 2 files. Good detail on egg raft and larvae changes.

    http://rapidshare.com/files/303258942/egg_raft_release_and_larval_development_.wmv

    http://rapidshare.com/files/303265382/frogfish_egg_raft_and_larvae.wmv



    Attached files Ray1961.pdf (171.8 KB)
     
  2. sfsuphysics

    sfsuphysics Supporting Member

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    Ha that's so cool. Random researchers using the interwebz to find information and leads them back to us reefers.
     
  3. Thales

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    NICE!
     
  4. Mr. Ugly

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    Updated original post with additional download links.
     
  5. Mr. Ugly

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    Yah, Rachel has been talking to frogfish folks on RC in that huge frogfish thread for quite some time now. She must have seen my RC post on the spawning a while back.

    She and Dr. Pietsch were the ones that collected the Psychedelic frogfish last year.

    http://blogs.nature.com/news/thegreatbeyond/2009/02/freaky_frogfish_does_the_psych.html
     
  6. Mr. Ugly

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    Only 3 downloads so far.

    And I thought teh pr0nz was supposed to be the biggest revenue generator on the interwebs.

    :D
     
  7. Reef Keeper

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    Nice. Loved the vid. Congrats. Did any of those eggs hatch for you?
     
  8. Mr. Ugly

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    Yep, eggs from 4 out of the 5 rafts hatched.

    The 2nd and 3rd videos show the free swimming babies.
     
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    Congrats. I'll double back and catch the following episode/s.
     
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    Hey Norm, when I was an undergrad at UW Fisheries, Ted was the professor for my Ichthyology and Fish Collection labs. Next time you speak to Rachel, give my regards to her and Ted although there's only about a 2% chance he'd remember me from classes back in '83 - '84.
     

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