Also note you may not get prices as low as those mentioned above, they have bulk rates on their site and they're not anywhere close to the values mentioned. At least the WP25s which have a price break of 65.50 when you order 8, with about $20 shipping that comes to about $68 a piece a savings of maybe $7 if you buy it yourself, WP40s actually come to about $71 each with a purchase of 8. Now they might do special deals, but I'm thinking the posted quantity values on their website because it's easier that way rather than trying to pack together a box. Then again reading some of the stuff on RC about how some people get replacement parts for one price, others at another. They might be loose with the books I would like to try a WP25 on my 80g quasi-cube, however the larger pumps I want I don't need right now so I'd probably be interested later, depends if they start shipping WP60s from their US warehouses, looking now they only ship from overseas, and that's $20 in shipping vs $6.