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Gablami's Reefer 525 Build

Had a mitratus butterfly very briefly. It passed away within the first 24 hours of arriving. Beautiful fish that I would like to try again one of these days.
 
Burgess butterflies

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are those real hardwood floors?

Reeferfoxx commenting to rack comment counts or something? Wtf is this.


Anyways. Have you tried any other butterflys or angels besides the copperband? There are some I really want.... but dont want to spend the money just to have them not eat and eventually die.... I think the fate of my boxfish will be similar... bad impulse buy. I heard sticking the food paste on the side of the tank gets them eating? Any idea what is a good brand to get?


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Masstick is what people have used. I’ve tried it in the past. I find it messy and kinda gross to deal with.

There are genicanthus angels that are considered reef safe. I have had the watanabei, Japanese swallowtail and bellus and they were all beautiful and hardy fish.

I have not tried any other butterflyfish yet besides several tries at the cbb. I’ve got clams and LPS, and not ready to take the gamble yet.


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My tiny “mag” from aquasd didn’t work out. It had a weak foot and frequently let go, and it really never acted like an h magnifica. It liked to stay down low and in the crevices and corner of the bare bottom tank. It never looked happy and eventually (maybe after getting stuck to my mp10 covers for the 10th time) it started to deteriorate and I said goodbye.

Fortunately @kinetic kept an eye out for me on the forums and someone in Maryland had their LEDs die on them and wanted to sell their mag ASAP. Here are some of his photos:

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I jumped on it, and we worked out getting it shipped to me overnight. It arrived earlier than expected, but when I opened up the package the water felt a bit warm. He had used two hand warmers in the styrofoam box and when I measured the temp, it was 86 degrees. I floated it until the temp matched my tank, and then took it out of the bag and began acclimating it.

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I did a relatively fast acclimation — the salinity difference was only 0.001 — and rinsed it off really well, before putting it directly into my plumbed-in frag tank. It’s foot was sticky and I had to peel it off the bottom of my acclimation bucket, and it stuck down to my pedestal right away.

I turned up the flow and it was right under the lights. Over the next few hours it seemed to inflate well but the mouth stayed open.

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I still thought it was doing ok. But once the lights turned off, within a couple hours it really took a nose dive. The body was deflated and flattened, and the mouth was widely gaping.

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I decided to treat the nem and moved it into a waiting 10g hospital tank, and started at a cipro dose of 250mg/10g. This is at the start of treatment:

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After about 10 hours of lights out cipro treatment, it looked a bit better. Mouth was still open, but not gaping. More inflated. I then turned on the light and gave it about 12 hours of light treatment. And by the end of the day, it was looking great:

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I did a water change and redosed the cipro for another lights out period. I’m going to keep treating for 7 days, to be safe. But I seriously thought the nem was a goner. Who knows, it could still go downhill, but I was pleasantly surprised at the recovery.

If anyone is interested in the history of this treatment, check out @OrionN’s posts about midway through this page:

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/how-i-cipro.211822/page-5

Edit: post #97 dated 12/05/17

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My tiny “mag” from aquasd didn’t work out. It had a weak foot and frequently let go, and it really never acted like an h magnifica. It liked to stay down low and in the crevices and corner of the bare bottom tank. It never looked happy and eventually (maybe after getting stuck to my mp10 covers for the 10th time) it started to deteriorate and I said goodbye.

Fortunately @kinetic kept an eye out for me on the forums and someone in Maryland had their LEDs die on them and wanted to sell their mag ASAP. Here are some of his photos:

4f7f15259c23494a00936849d6656cea.jpg


0ca440983c3917b4db488566661d0b9b.jpg


I jumped on it, and we worked out getting it shipped to me overnight. It arrived earlier than expected, but when I opened up the package the water felt a bit warm. He had used two hand warmers in the styrofoam box and when I measured the temp, it was 86 degrees. I floated it until the temp matched my tank, and then took it out of the bag and began acclimating it.

4e16699a2f1c59925f4261b0975c2039.jpg


I did a relatively fast acclimation — the salinity difference was only 0.001 — and rinsed it off really well, before putting it directly into my plumbed-in frag tank. It’s foot was sticky and I had to peel it off the bottom of my acclimation bucket, and it stuck down to my pedestal right away.

I turned up the flow and it was right under the lights. Over the next few hours it seemed to inflate well but the mouth stayed open.

c77b0c7c587847cd01574fef78ee3593.jpg


06f94bd41be149072837d97055d929f9.jpg


I still thought it was doing ok. But once the lights turned off, within a couple hours it really took a nose dive. The body was deflated and flattened, and the mouth was widely gaping.

aaddc8a0334e3ced7a41cff0f904ee31.jpg


I decided to treat the nem and moved it into a waiting 10g hospital tank, and started at a cipro dose of 250mg/10g. This is at the start of treatment:

5350fc28920eacbb03d47c3d8ddb63ae.jpg


ec18538023849a5524fc03ed45c8bdf1.jpg


After about 10 hours of lights out cipro treatment, it looked a bit better. Mouth was still open, but not gaping. More inflated. I then turned on the light and gave it about 12 hours of light treatment. And by the end of the day, it was looking great:

a3c0c47505a2239b61f2a476e4c73c3f.jpg


db8668710c875bf6ebbd81e4c421e4e0.jpg


I did a water change and redosed the cipro for another lights out period. I’m going to keep treating for 7 days, to be safe. But I seriously thought the nem was a goner. Who knows, it could still go downhill, but I was pleasantly surprised at the recovery.

If anyone is interested in the history of this treatment, check out @OrionN’s posts about midway through this page:

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/how-i-cipro.211822/page-5


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Wow that’s a nice mag! Congrats!


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My tiny “mag” from aquasd didn’t work out. It had a weak foot and frequently let go, and it really never acted like an h magnifica. It liked to stay down low and in the crevices and corner of the bare bottom tank. It never looked happy and eventually (maybe after getting stuck to my mp10 covers for the 10th time) it started to deteriorate and I said goodbye.

Fortunately @kinetic kept an eye out for me on the forums and someone in Maryland had their LEDs die on them and wanted to sell their mag ASAP. Here are some of his photos:

4f7f15259c23494a00936849d6656cea.jpg


0ca440983c3917b4db488566661d0b9b.jpg


I jumped on it, and we worked out getting it shipped to me overnight. It arrived earlier than expected, but when I opened up the package the water felt a bit warm. He had used two hand warmers in the styrofoam box and when I measured the temp, it was 86 degrees. I floated it until the temp matched my tank, and then took it out of the bag and began acclimating it.

4e16699a2f1c59925f4261b0975c2039.jpg


I did a relatively fast acclimation — the salinity difference was only 0.001 — and rinsed it off really well, before putting it directly into my plumbed-in frag tank. It’s foot was sticky and I had to peel it off the bottom of my acclimation bucket, and it stuck down to my pedestal right away.

I turned up the flow and it was right under the lights. Over the next few hours it seemed to inflate well but the mouth stayed open.

c77b0c7c587847cd01574fef78ee3593.jpg


06f94bd41be149072837d97055d929f9.jpg


I still thought it was doing ok. But once the lights turned off, within a couple hours it really took a nose dive. The body was deflated and flattened, and the mouth was widely gaping.

aaddc8a0334e3ced7a41cff0f904ee31.jpg


I decided to treat the nem and moved it into a waiting 10g hospital tank, and started at a cipro dose of 250mg/10g. This is at the start of treatment:

5350fc28920eacbb03d47c3d8ddb63ae.jpg


ec18538023849a5524fc03ed45c8bdf1.jpg


After about 10 hours of lights out cipro treatment, it looked a bit better. Mouth was still open, but not gaping. More inflated. I then turned on the light and gave it about 12 hours of light treatment. And by the end of the day, it was looking great:

a3c0c47505a2239b61f2a476e4c73c3f.jpg


db8668710c875bf6ebbd81e4c421e4e0.jpg


I did a water change and redosed the cipro for another lights out period. I’m going to keep treating for 7 days, to be safe. But I seriously thought the nem was a goner. Who knows, it could still go downhill, but I was pleasantly surprised at the recovery.

If anyone is interested in the history of this treatment, check out @OrionN’s posts about midway through this page:

https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/how-i-cipro.211822/page-5


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That is really interesting, thanks for the link and the info. Beautiful nem, congrats!! I hope it is huge and happy for you. ;)


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I was buoyed by the fact that the mag was staying on his pedestal. So I decided to try to move him into the display tank. I cleared some room out, and made sure it’s tentacles couldn’t touch the rock or glass. Also checked par, and he was getting even more in the DT lower down than in the frag tank (300+).

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He stayed there for almost a week. Yesterday afternoon came home to this.

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Almost gave me a heart attack since I imagined all my frags dying. Peeled him off and put him back in the frag tank.


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First off, I love your tank. It's awesome. You haven't posted in almost two years which makes me concerned something happened so hopefully everything is alright!

I have two questions (hopefully they haven't been answered before):
  1. Your Vortech MP40s are so well hidden. I know you use the Titan grips to have a low profile option to run the wire from the side to the back, but given you have a see through-back, how did you run the wire down without it being seen? Is it running along the corner seem of the tank? Did you use titan grips for that too?
  2. The LEDs that create the really cool gradient effect behind your tank are awesome. Did you just mount those on a piece of wood or did you have another way of mounting it behind the tank?
 
First off, I love your tank. It's awesome. You haven't posted in almost two years which makes me concerned something happened so hopefully everything is alright!

I have two questions (hopefully they haven't been answered before):
  1. Your Vortech MP40s are so well hidden. I know you use the Titan grips to have a low profile option to run the wire from the side to the back, but given you have a see through-back, how did you run the wire down without it being seen? Is it running along the corner seem of the tank? Did you use titan grips for that too?
  2. The LEDs that create the really cool gradient effect behind your tank are awesome. Did you just mount those on a piece of wood or did you have another way of mounting it behind the tank?

Thanks for the compliments!

Wow, it had been awhile since updating this thread. Tank is still running. No crash. The frag tank has been decommissioned and I’m actually in the process of upgrading the tank, so my corals have taken a bit of a hit with the accompanying neglect.

Yes I used titan grips to run the cables along the seams of the tank. And the LED strips I just ran along the bottom of the back of the tank, so it was facing the back wall. I stopped using that back light after a few months. I guess that was sort of a gimmick.

I still like the clear back though and will keep that for the new build :).


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