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Kinda random, but has anyone ever taken home a piece of washed up reef rock from the beach and brought it home to put into their reef tank? Needless to say it should be cured before adding to DT. Anyone?

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First rule would be not to post about something you're about to do that is illegal in a public forum. ;)

And that a dry rock size wouldn't likely make a dent in your tank (Unless there's a big old dead oyster attached to it).

https://dlnr.hawaii.gov/occl/files/2013/07/205a.pdf

§205A-44 Prohibitions.
(a) The mining or taking of sand, dead coral or coral rubble, rocks, soil, or other beach or marine deposits from the shoreline area is prohibited with the following exceptions:

(1) The taking from the shoreline area of the materials, not in excess of one gallon per person per day, for reasonable, personal, noncommercial use, provided that stricter provisions may be established by the counties;
(2) Where the mining or taking is authorized by a variance pursuant to this part;
(3) The clearing of the materials from existing drainage pipes and canals and from the mouths of streams including clearing for the purposes under section 46-11.5; provided that the sand removed shall be placed on adjacent areas unless such placement would result in significant turbidity; or
(4) The cleaning of the shoreline area for state or county maintenance purposes, including the clearing for purposes under section 46-12; provided that the sand removed shall be placed on adjacent areas unless the placement would result in significant turbidity.
(b) Except as provided in this section, structures are prohibited in the shoreline area without a variance pursuant to this part. Structures in the shoreline area shall not need a variance if:
(1) They were completed prior to June 22, 1970;
(2) They received either a building permit, board approval, or shoreline setback variance prior to June 16, 1989;
(3) They are outside the shoreline area when they receive either a building permit or board approval;
(4) They are necessary for or ancillary to continuation of existing agriculture or aquaculture in the shoreline area on June 16, 1989;
(5) They are minor structures permitted under rules adopted by the department which do not affect beach processes or artificially fix the shoreline and do not interfere with public access or public views to and along the shoreline; or
(6) Work being done consists of maintenance, repair, reconstruction, and minor additions or alterations of legal boating, maritime, or watersports recreational facilities, which are publicly owned, and which result in little or no interference with natural shoreline processes;
provided that permitted structures may be repaired, but shall not be enlarged within the shoreline area without a variance. [L 1986, c 258, pt of §1; am L 1988, c 375, §1; am L 1989, c 356, §12]
 
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Technically I didn’t say that I was about to do it. I asked if anyone had done it. But of course, if legality is an issue then no one should answer yes lol.


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RandyC said:
First rule would be not to post about something you're about to do that is illegal in a public forum. ;)

And that a dry rock size wouldn't likely make a dent in your tank (Unless there's a big old dead oyster attached to it).

https://dlnr.hawaii.gov/occl/files/2013/07/205a.pdf

§205A-44 Prohibitions.
(a) The mining or taking of sand, dead coral or coral rubble, rocks, soil, or other beach or marine deposits from the shoreline area is prohibited with the following exceptions:

(1) The taking from the shoreline area of the materials, not in excess of one gallon per person per day, for reasonable, personal, noncommercial use, provided that stricter provisions may be established by the counties;
(2) Where the mining or taking is authorized by a variance pursuant to this part;
(3) The clearing of the materials from existing drainage pipes and canals and from the mouths of streams including clearing for the purposes under section 46-11.5; provided that the sand removed shall be placed on adjacent areas unless such placement would result in significant turbidity; or
(4) The cleaning of the shoreline area for state or county maintenance purposes, including the clearing for purposes under section 46-12; provided that the sand removed shall be placed on adjacent areas unless the placement would result in significant turbidity.
(b) Except as provided in this section, structures are prohibited in the shoreline area without a variance pursuant to this part. Structures in the shoreline area shall not need a variance if:
(1) They were completed prior to June 22, 1970;
(2) They received either a building permit, board approval, or shoreline setback variance prior to June 16, 1989;
(3) They are outside the shoreline area when they receive either a building permit or board approval;
(4) They are necessary for or ancillary to continuation of existing agriculture or aquaculture in the shoreline area on June 16, 1989;
(5) They are minor structures permitted under rules adopted by the department which do not affect beach processes or artificially fix the shoreline and do not interfere with public access or public views to and along the shoreline; or
(6) Work being done consists of maintenance, repair, reconstruction, and minor additions or alterations of legal boating, maritime, or watersports recreational facilities, which are publicly owned, and which result in little or no interference with natural shoreline processes;
provided that permitted structures may be repaired, but shall not be enlarged within the shoreline area without a variance. [L 1986, c 258, pt of §1; am L 1988, c 375, §1; am L 1989, c 356, §12]
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A(1) in your post says it’s legal for personal use up to 1 gallon a day, so it doesn’t seem like a problem legally.

And I doubt any state or country is stricter than Hawaii is.

It seems fine to me. Actually kind of an interesting idea. I have family in Hawaii so we go there frequently and are always in the ocean, but somehow I’ve never considered bringing back a rock for my tank.

Not a law, but it is considered kapu and very bad luck to remove a lava rock from the islands.
 
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A(1) in your post says it’s legal for personal use up to 1 gallon a day, so it doesn’t seem like a problem legally.

And I doubt any state or country is stricter than Hawaii is.

It seems fine to me. Actually kind of an interesting idea. I have family in Hawaii so we go there frequently and are always in the ocean, but somehow I’ve never considered bringing back a rock for my tank.

Not a law, but it is considered kapu and very bad luck to remove a lava rock from the islands.
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It is actually illegal after a little more research. The statute I posted is from 2013. Here's the latest from 2017. They no longer let you have a gallon worth for personal or non-commercial uses.

https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol03_Ch0121-0200D/HRS0171/HRS_0171-0058_0005.htm

§171-58.5 Prohibitions. The mining or taking of sand, dead coral or coral rubble, rocks, soil, or other marine deposits seaward from the shoreline is prohibited with the following exceptions:
(1) The inadvertent taking from seaward of the shoreline of these materials, such as those inadvertently carried away on the body, and on clothes, toys, recreational equipment, and bags;

(2) For the replenishment or protection of public shoreline areas and adjacent public lands seaward of the shoreline, or construction or maintenance of state approved lagoons, harbors, launching ramps, or navigational channels with a permit authorized under chapter 183C;

(3) The clearing of these materials from existing drainage pipes and canals and from the mouths of streams including clearing for the purposes under section 46-11.5; provided that the sand removed shall be placed on adjacent areas unless this placement would result in significant turbidity;

(4) The cleaning of areas seaward of the shoreline for state or county maintenance purposes including the purposes under section 46-12; provided that the sand removed shall be placed on adjacent areas unless the placement would result in significant turbidity;

(5) The exercise of traditional cultural practices as authorized by law or as permitted by the department pursuant to article XII, section 7, of the Hawaii State Constitution; or

(6) For the response to a public emergency or a state or local disaster. [L 1988, c 375, §2; am L 1989, c 356, §3; am L 1995, c 11, §3 and c 69, §2; am L 2013, c 120, §1]
 
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Well at least I was right about how ridiculously strict Hawaii is about this kind of thing lol

I guess you could check your swim trunk pockets when you get home for inadvertent souvenirs :)
 
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