I've found that the new Avid Aqua holders are pretty urchin resistant. @Invictus and I were thinking of doing a group buy for the club (on the next BOD meeting agenda).
210 gallon Dream tank
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I assume you mean these things?
I've actually heard good things about them on several utube videos. Crazy enough the 210 doesn't have any frag racks on the glass. This is a fist time for one of my tanks lol. I wouldn't be opposed to trying one out over the current ones I have in use. With luck I will be table to keep any racks from being on the glass in the 210.
I have about 5 in the main sps tank still. It's slightly embarrassing to say how many I use to have in the tanks. I have 2 different drawers stuff with ones I'm no longer using. In addition to others scattered around in various places.
I'll figure out what I want the tank to feature and how I want the tank to look as far as sectioning things off. Than I may try gluing a few frags down. Maybe it will catch on in my head. All my previous editions of displays I've basically treated as frag tanks never gluing anything.
The sps tank has force my hand being that many of the coral have encrusted over the frag seats and plugs fusing themselves to the rock structures and frag racks. I didn't intend to have any of them actually glued in place.
Coral reefer
Past President
Give in and put them in the big boy!
I went ahead and picked up two tuxedo urchins while at AC. I also took a gamble and grabbed 2 Halloween hermits, and one similar sized red leg hermit.
Reef flux is still in the system. It's the begging of day 8. Alage looks thinner yet I don't see a crazy difference as of yet. Hopefully between that and urchins I see at least some improvement over the next week.
I'm hoping the green corsis wrasse will leave the bigger hermits alone.
He's gotten much bigger since going into the 210 and I'm suspecting without wittinessing it that he's probably sniping clean up crew including some of the smaller snails.
This is based only on his size and aggression/ dominance over the other wrasses. The yellow corsis wrasse seems way to small mouth size to eat hermits, so is the melanurus wrasse.
A further observation is when I feed the puffer the green corsis wrasse aggressively eats the krill as well. When the other fish larger than him ignore them.
I don't think it's the puffer as he refuses to eat anything except krill, mysis and brine shrimp. I can't get him to eat clams on half shell for nothing. He nips at shell tastes it than ignores it no matter what do with it to get his attention. He won't nip at one again for several days. Even if I take tbe clam meat make it the size of krill he still had zero intrest.
Reef flux is still in the system. It's the begging of day 8. Alage looks thinner yet I don't see a crazy difference as of yet. Hopefully between that and urchins I see at least some improvement over the next week.
I'm hoping the green corsis wrasse will leave the bigger hermits alone.
He's gotten much bigger since going into the 210 and I'm suspecting without wittinessing it that he's probably sniping clean up crew including some of the smaller snails.
This is based only on his size and aggression/ dominance over the other wrasses. The yellow corsis wrasse seems way to small mouth size to eat hermits, so is the melanurus wrasse.
A further observation is when I feed the puffer the green corsis wrasse aggressively eats the krill as well. When the other fish larger than him ignore them.
I don't think it's the puffer as he refuses to eat anything except krill, mysis and brine shrimp. I can't get him to eat clams on half shell for nothing. He nips at shell tastes it than ignores it no matter what do with it to get his attention. He won't nip at one again for several days. Even if I take tbe clam meat make it the size of krill he still had zero intrest.
Turkeysammich
Moderator
Dunno if there’s any similarities. Erin’s freshwater puffer doesn’t really eat clams. He will crack them all up and eat a little. Not what you would think tho. Erin said he also feeds him squid. I found it very interesting. @Kensington Reefer
Kensington Reefer
Supporting Member
Not squid…large prawns, frozen solid…chomp chomp chomp!
The mbu does eat the clams but there are fish that swoop in and steal bits before the puffer can get to the freshly crunched clam.
The puffer ain’t starving! It’s 6 years old….over 2 feet
Mine is probably 5 inches so maybe I'll try to fine some small shell on shrimp krill size. Prawns are probably longer than he is.
Though I haven't tried squid. I don't wanna try silver sides and get him seeing smaller fish as food.
Coral reefer
Past President
I’ve always liked to feed the frozen formula one and VHP formula cubes to puffers and lions.
Hmmm. Could you write the brand and full names of these two you mentioned. I would like to look them up and keep a eye out for them. I'm kinda clueless as to what specific ones you're refrencing.
I see various ones in freezer sections but no experience with them so I tend not to grab random ones.
I feed the other fish a variety of frozen foods/ alages I would love to get the puffer more variety as well.
Kensington Reefer
Supporting Member
Bait shop…grass shrimp
Coral reefer
Past President
Ocean nutrition. Formula one and VHP (very high protein/predator). Full cubes. Bigger pieces. Less mess
Ugh So I think I have a big problem with this tank now. Likely ich but I'm not certain.
Most of the fish I don't think are showing signs. Yet I'm really thinking the puffer and foxface likely are. Below are pictures of the fish. Maybe some with experience can confirm one way or another.
Tagging a few people that would likely know especially with the specific fish I have below. I'm sure many others would as well just a quick short list off the top of my head
@under_water_ninja
@Kensington Reefer
@Darkxerox
@BAYMAC
@SupraSaltyReefer
@Turkeysammich
Porcupine Puffer 4.5 inches
Yellow foxface 4 inches
Clown Tang 6 inches
Yellow Corris Wrasse 2.75 inches
Green (pastel) Corris Wrasse 3.5 inches
Part 2 below.
Most of the fish I don't think are showing signs. Yet I'm really thinking the puffer and foxface likely are. Below are pictures of the fish. Maybe some with experience can confirm one way or another.
Tagging a few people that would likely know especially with the specific fish I have below. I'm sure many others would as well just a quick short list off the top of my head
@under_water_ninja
@Kensington Reefer
@Darkxerox
@BAYMAC
@SupraSaltyReefer
@Turkeysammich
Porcupine Puffer 4.5 inches
Yellow foxface 4 inches
Clown Tang 6 inches
Yellow Corris Wrasse 2.75 inches
Green (pastel) Corris Wrasse 3.5 inches
Part 2 below.
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Part 2
Melanurus Wrasse 3 inches
Banggai Cardinal #1 =1.4 inches
#2 = 1.4inches is in picture with clown tang above
Flame dwarf angel 2.75 inches
Coral beauty dwarf angel 3 inches
Yellow tang 2.75 inches
Scopas Tang 4 inches
Starry blenny 3 inches
All fish are eating as normal zero change in behavior as in flashing or heavy breathing. I first notice puffer with spots last week however I thought maybe my eye were playing tricks on me. Until today I saw 2-3 larger spots in foxface fish.
I hope I'm just being overly concerned and it's nothing. Yet knowing sooner would be better.
Melanurus Wrasse 3 inches
Banggai Cardinal #1 =1.4 inches
#2 = 1.4inches is in picture with clown tang above
Flame dwarf angel 2.75 inches
Coral beauty dwarf angel 3 inches
Yellow tang 2.75 inches
Scopas Tang 4 inches
Starry blenny 3 inches
All fish are eating as normal zero change in behavior as in flashing or heavy breathing. I first notice puffer with spots last week however I thought maybe my eye were playing tricks on me. Until today I saw 2-3 larger spots in foxface fish.
I hope I'm just being overly concerned and it's nothing. Yet knowing sooner would be better.
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Definitely ich. I think at this point you need to decide if you want to go through the process of Fallow again on all your tanks or live with it and do the ich management route.
I personally don't have the patience for fallow or to QT absolutely everything I add in the future so I do ich management. Like you, I have multiple tanks so its extremely difficult to not eventually infect the other tanks in the house via equipment or even airborne. For this reason, I warn everyone a head of time if they want any of my frags or if I ever sell any fish.
In the meantime, get a couple cleaner wrasses. I have a 20g long and 10g tank you are welcome to have if you decide you want to catch the fishes and do copper treatment, but the 20g long might be too small with the amount of fishes you have. A 40g breeder tank would be ideal.
I personally don't have the patience for fallow or to QT absolutely everything I add in the future so I do ich management. Like you, I have multiple tanks so its extremely difficult to not eventually infect the other tanks in the house via equipment or even airborne. For this reason, I warn everyone a head of time if they want any of my frags or if I ever sell any fish.
In the meantime, get a couple cleaner wrasses. I have a 20g long and 10g tank you are welcome to have if you decide you want to catch the fishes and do copper treatment, but the 20g long might be too small with the amount of fishes you have. A 40g breeder tank would be ideal.
Yea I'm currently at a total lost. I did use same cup/ feeder to feed different frozen to all 3 tanks back to back. That would add even more fish to the equation. Hopefully I was crazy lucky and haven't actually spread it between tanks. Not to mention popper tells me the 5 inch blue tang is ready for me to get from him.
Kensington Reefer
Supporting Member
In that reef...
50% water changes every other day for at least 3 changes
Raise temperature to 82F
Feed well, fish that don’t eat are doomed
After that, observe...if things are improving, do another 50%
Observe
If improvement continues space out water changes
Water changes remove swimming stage of ich immediately in that removed portion
UV helps too
This is what I would do, but you do you
Good luck
Sucks...been there...
50% water changes every other day for at least 3 changes
Raise temperature to 82F
Feed well, fish that don’t eat are doomed
After that, observe...if things are improving, do another 50%
Observe
If improvement continues space out water changes
Water changes remove swimming stage of ich immediately in that removed portion
UV helps too
This is what I would do, but you do you
Good luck
Sucks...been there...
My tank had ich come and go the first couple years. It’s not the end of the world you may think it is if your fish are healthy. It eventually just stopped showing up.
Feed a lot, feed often, feed a variety of food. I think this is the best thing to do for your fish.
Keep their stress levels low. If you start doing all kinds of shit to stress them out it will make things worse. Stress + ich means doom.
Feed a lot, feed often, feed a variety of food. I think this is the best thing to do for your fish.
Keep their stress levels low. If you start doing all kinds of shit to stress them out it will make things worse. Stress + ich means doom.