Reef nutrition

Dealing with lyngbya

PjFish said:
Apparently so and worked clearing lyngbya interesting!!

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Yea I've read over it a few time.

Several other posts mentioned

Azithromycin works and actually kills it. It came back with multiple people saying it worked. Requires a prescription but I was able to find some online that doesn't. Will give it a try. If that fails than Silica maybe. Or saying screw it and removing everything that has traces of it from the tank and bleaching it.

From addtional post I saw, it says this stuff gets inside pipes as well and doesn't seem to need direct light to live. So Leads me to consider the antibiotic that. Would treat the entire system. I don't have any fish in the tank just coral and cuc.
I worry about having other alage issues with the Silica dosing. Issues I don't current have. There was also lots of talk about dosing it causing diatoms to bloom as intended but in the aftermath people reported dinos and bad hair alage.

Though just as many people said screw it and just bleached the entire systems.

Just not many indications that anyone actually beat it completely beyond the hints of it with the Azithromycin.
 
Darkxerox said:
I've been anywhere from 0ppm nitrate with 0.4ppm phosphate 4 months ago to 15 ppm nitrate and 0.09 phosphate currently, zero effect on the lyngbya. Dipping isn't an option since my rock structures are huge, plus these things grow on walls, sand, sump, etc. So I need something systemic. All herbivores I've tried avoid it (trochus, astrea, three species of hermits, three species of urchin, conchs, tangs, blenny, emeralds, turbos, sea hares, etc.), so I'm assuming it's noxious.

Manual removal helps but it always comes back. Anyone here successfully eradicate it systemically?
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Hope you got a handle on this by now but if not try a few fuzzy chitons maybe they will have an appetite for Lyngbya! Or those Indo warm water abalone since you’ve tried about every other cuc. Upon reading @H2oplaya update reminded me of chitons grazing ability like urchins scraping the rocks as they graze. I see thousands them in the tide pools at Agate Beach in Bolinas every month or two during minus tides. Duxbury reef located at Agate beach is the largest rock reef on the west coast. Truly an amazing place if you like exploring tide pools. Once down the small path at ocean make sure to venture to the left around the point to access the reef and the stadium size shallow tide pools. Millions of cucs, colorful nudibranch, urchins, anemones, red abalone, baby lobsters and occasional red octopuses...The kicker is the whole area is covered in gorgeous pink coraline algae along with shimmering blue iridescent seaweed dancing in the sunlight..The reef is exposed during minus tides just make sure you keep track of the incoming tide movement otherwise you may get wet on the return!!
 
Haven't updated my journal but I've mostly got it under control. The hydrogen peroxide didn't do anything for existing mats but once I pulled the big parts off of surfaces, it kept it from recolonizing.

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I've always been looking for an Indo abalone but never see them for sale. Same for the chitons. I haven't tried money cowries in this tank either, might need to do another group buy.
 
Darkxerox said:
Haven't updated my journal but I've mostly got it under control. The hydrogen peroxide didn't do anything for existing mats but once I pulled the big parts off of surfaces, it kept it from recolonizing.

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I've always been looking for an Indo abalone but never see them for sale. Same for the chitons. I haven't tried money cowries in this tank either, might need to do another group buy.
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I'd be intrested in one. In a cuc group buy if someone organized it.

I'm gonna preformed a experiment today.

With some of this mess. I will try treating it in smaller containers maybe small powerhead.

I'm thinking peroxide in one, cheminclean in another, and reef flux in the 3rd.

I have a antibiotic callled Azithromycin that some claims actually kills this stuff fast On the way. I will likely test some as well when it arrives.

Most of these have had no lasting effect treating the entire tank. Goals with testing is to see if there is a effect with any of them at higher concentrations. When I doses all of these into the tanks previous I only followed the dosing instructions and they were pretty diluted. So just seeing if concentrated doses may work on individual rocks if they were removed and added to smaller volume of water verse the whole tank.


Ideally because the rocks and crushed coral sre on their way to maturing I would prefer to avoid restarting and using bleach. I'd prefer to keep the rock alive if possible. Yet I can't and won't really do anything coral wise until it's solved or has a solution.

Which does.100% work from some of the smaller rocks that I've already bleach and removed from that tank.
 
Patio said:
Keep me in the loop if you find any money cowrie! I have been looking without any luck (I don't know all the spots to order from though).
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Yeah unfortunately we used to get all ours from Salty Bottom Reef but they closed.

Reef cleaners is backordered, but they do have fuzzy chitons.
 
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Here is a semi experiment to see what kills this stuff.

I have tried: reef flux, Cheminclean, and peroxide dosing only up to the recommended doses in two different tanks. With zero notable results.

I haven't tried the antibiotic yet. (I will try the recommended dose today in my 210gallon tank currently only has cuc and coral. I wouldn't try this if fish were present. )

This would not in any way pass a scientific peer review.

1.) I didn't measure same amount of water for each container. (Just eyeballed it) started all with new saltwater

2.) The samples in each container weren't weighed or measured

3.) The dose of each product used was estimated to be 4-8 times the recommended dose on packaging and what was recommended on other forms. (In short the doses were not scaled to match equally across all of them and would be impossible to be perfectly repeated )

4.) There is no control for this experiment beyond the tanks i have running that have uncountable variables compared to the newly mixed saltwater

*** this is something I would never do in a existing tank with any living animals, so don't take this as any type of recommendation beyond what's intended. Soely to determine if any of these options will kill this stuff even at higher concentrations***

The amounts I used in these cups would certainly stress, harm, or even kill things in a actual tank

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A look at what's in the cups.

Lastly I decided not to run power heads or heaters in any of them. Being the only goal is to see what may work.

I'll give updates on these results.

Again don't do this in your actual tank.
 
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MichaelB said:
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Here is a semi experiment to see what kills this stuff.

I have tried: reef flux, Cheminclean, and peroxide dosing only up to the recommended doses in two different tanks. With zero notable results.

I haven't tried the antibiotic yet. (I will try the recommended dose today in my 210gallon tank currently only has cuc and coral. I wouldn't try this if fish were present. )

This would not in any way pass a scientific peer review.

1.) I didn't measure same amount of water for each container. (Just eyeballed it) started all with new saltwater

2.) The samples in each container weren't weighed or measured

3.) The dose of each product used was estimated to be 4-8 times the recommended dose on packaging and what was recommended on other forms. (In short the doses were not scaled to match equally across all of them and would be impossible to be perfectly repeated )

4.) There is no control for this experiment beyond the tanks i have running that have uncountable variables compared to the newly mixed saltwater

*** this is something I would never do in a existing tank with any living animals, so don't take this as any type of recommendation beyond what's intended. Soely to determine if any of these options will kill this stuff even at higher concentrations***

The amounts I used in these cups would certainly stress, harm, or even kill things in a actual tank

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A look at what's in the cups.

Lastly I decided not to run power heads or heaters in any of them. Being the only goal is to see what may work.

I'll give updates on these results.

Again don't do this in your actual tank.
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Make a control though, just put the sample into water in a cup and add nothing.
 
tribbitt said:
Hey @MichaelB

Diatoms are super easy to clean up and mostly harmless

If you want to dose silicates let me know, I have a thing of waterglass sodium silicate from Loudwolf chemical supply
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Keeping that option in the filling cabinet for now. If antibiotic doesn't work. That would likely be the next attempt. After that only other options would be live with it or a full of partial tank restart. I should know in. Few days if this stuff has any effect.

If I go with silicates I'll resch out.

Really hoping this antibiotic works though.
 
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