Corals dying after tank upgrade and water change - ALK finally lower at 13 but Ammonia is 4! HELP!

Discussion in 'Coral' started by Batiatus, Apr 18, 2010.

  1. Batiatus

    Batiatus Guest

    I just upgraded to a 100GL last sunday. I transferred all the rocks, sand and water from my 55. The fish are doing great, but since the water change yesterday none of them would open up. Im not sure if its the ammonia, but i cant think of any reason why my corals are suddenly like this. I think my bubble is a gonner. I can see the skeleton.

    I also just changed from a T5 to a 2x150w Halide at 20K and 2x96w pc, is that enough lighting?

    After the water change yesterday I added Kent Essential Elements, Stess Zyme and Ammo Lock. also added Bionic alkaline and calcium lastnight. Im currently using instanct Ocean.


    I just finished some testing and our parameters are

    Salt 1.023
    PH 8.0-8.2
    AM 0-0.25
    Ni 0
    NA 5-10

    Thanks
     
  2. Gomer

    Gomer Honorary Member

    When you transfered tanks, did you re-use or use new sand?
     
  3. Kensington Reefer

    Kensington Reefer Supporting Member

    Water changes every 3 days (25-30%) for next 10 days or so. Until the system has a chance to get back to normal.
     
  4. Batiatus

    Batiatus Guest

    hi tony,

    i re-used the sand and the rocks. so i don't really know what's wrong. everyone was doing great yesterday until the water change and the solutions we added. pls advise. thanks.
     
  5. Sfork

    Sfork Guest

    The thing is you shouldn't reuse all your sand without heavy washing, only the top layer can be used without washing. The bottom has all the stuff that shouldn't be in your tank.
     
  6. Batiatus

    Batiatus Guest

    when you say water changes until its stable, do you mean until nitrates and ammonia are back to zero? my nitrites and ph are normal i believe. my wife and i really dont know whats going on. everythng was fine yesterday til after the water change. we moved them last sunday so its been a week.
     
  7. Batiatus

    Batiatus Guest

    hi tim, i basically used all the sand but mixed it with new sand that i cycled before moving. so basically now its 50% old and 50% new. I cleaned the sand too before loading everything so we really don't know whats wrong.
     
  8. Kensington Reefer

    Kensington Reefer Supporting Member

    The system has been disturbed. As was mentioned, the deaper sand has released the nasties. So the water changes will dilute this. The solution to polution is dilution. If it's not an issue, you can do water changes every day!
     
  9. Batiatus

    Batiatus Guest

    25-30% everyday??? for how long? my wife's gonna love that. she's so worried about the corals coz they were really doing good before the upgrade so maybe she'll help me lol thanks for the advice erin.

    just wondering though, do you think it could be an alkalinity issue? i don't have an alkalinity test so im not sure if that's what i should look out for. if its the alkalinity, what should i do?
     
  10. Gomer

    Gomer Honorary Member

    I'd recommend the water changes as well. My money is on the substrate. Old sand transfered to a new tank can release all sorts of bad stuff.
     
  11. bookfish

    bookfish Guest

    I find myself agreeing with Erin....strange as that seems...LOL
     
  12. Batiatus

    Batiatus Guest

    so what should i do about the corals? a friend of mine told me to do an iodine dip. will this help?

    its never been this bad even after the move til yesterday after the water change? they seemed to be doing better until we did the water change and after we put in all the solutions. so im not really sure what's wrong if its the solutions? the system being disturbed manifesting after a week (?) or just new tank syndrome (but after a week? kinda late isnt it?). we just did a water change so we're hoping it will get better tomorrow. but if it doesnt what else is left to do?
     
  13. phishphood

    phishphood Guest

    I agree with everyone above. +1 to the water changes, but you might also want to add some carbon for a little while at least. It won't necessarily help w/ the root of the problem, but if corals are dying odds are toxins are in the water from them as well.

    Any way to get a better reading on the ammonia? 0-.25 is a little ambiguoous?
     
  14. Kensington Reefer

    Kensington Reefer Supporting Member

    Pm me
    I'll give you my phone number
    call me tomorrow
    what water are you using?
     
  15. Batiatus

    Batiatus Guest

    Hi mitch - my wife and i are bit conflicted with the reading coz its too close to tell. she says its more to 0.25 but i think its more to 0. We do have activated carbon in the sump btw.
     
  16. Batiatus

    Batiatus Guest

    we're using filtered tap water. and thanks i will pm you and call you tomorrow.
     
  17. Batiatus

    Batiatus Guest

    hi erin, sorry but i don't know how to pm you here. i cant find it in the website. hope its ok if you can email me instead at gpvv78@yahoo.com

    thanks - glenn
     
  18. Apon

    Apon Volunteer

    Sorry only paid members can use the PM function. Good luck.
     
  19. Roc

    Roc Guest

    it may also have something with doing so many changes so quick, you went from a cycled tank with t5's to a brand new tank (plus adding the sand bed) with MH, ususaly one wants to do changes in steps as to avoid to much shock, but I also agree the only hope is to do water changes and try to keep everything in check.
     
  20. Gomer

    Gomer Honorary Member

    remember, if you have coral tissue on a "dead" coral, it isn't dead yet :) Bleached is recoverable. A little bit of attached tissue is recoverable.
     

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