"Giant Mini Fridge" - Red Sea E-170

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  1. Flagg37

    Flagg37 Officer at large

    @scuzzy is selling his RE skimmer. Might be a bit large for a 55 gallon though.
     
  2. scuzy

    scuzy Supporting Member

    It's too large for that tank.


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  3. revnull

    revnull Supporting Member

    Thanks for the suggestions. My motives for replacing the older AC return pump and skimmer are mostly noise and power efficiency. They are currently the 2 items that are always turned on and generate the most noise in the room. All things being equal I'd be fine with just replacing the skimmer pump with something that ran quieter, but a net newer skimmer may also have some functional/tuning advantages over the relatively ancient EuroReef ES5-3.

    On another note, one of the main drawbacks to the Max E-170 is the sump placement. Because it shipped with a "power center" attached to the right side of the cabinet, the sump sits as far to the left as the door hinges will allow. After the power strip is removed (going to use an Apex anyway), this only leaves about 1 useless inch to the left of the sump and about 4.5 inches to the right. There is no way around it, my RO/DI topoff container will have to live outside of the cabinet, but I would still like my dosing containers (kalk/mag) inside with the pumps.

    I found this 1.25gal container at walmart:

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    Seems to fit just right. When filled to the top the sides bloat a bit, but not enough to interfere.

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    I'm a bit concerned with with the fill whole (larger white cap) leaking over time or the longevity of this setup in general. Maybe I'll have a custom acrylic container made. Or find a cabinet that can rest on the side of the other that can hold both my 5 gallon RO/DI container and several dosing containers.
     
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  4. revnull

    revnull Supporting Member

    I have spent the last couple of nights compiling data about replacement skimmers. Starting to feel like most of the available options are all the same given my sub $250 price point. I know the old EuroReef is a beast, but it's also a little power hungry by modern pump standards.

    Option 1: I can try to retrofit a new pump and maybe a gate valve on the EuroReef making a franken-skimmer that will make me sad everytime I open my stand.... OR

    Option 2: Help me pick a new skimmer :) (sub $250 keeps me sane)
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xt1YUlW3jQfs5B-wbtHordgwEN-VElJcjohC59hl1WA/
     
  5. Vhuang168

    Vhuang168 Supporting Member

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  6. revnull

    revnull Supporting Member

    Just saw a post about someone using a 24vdc port on an Apex to power this skimmer directly. This is almost the best selling point. :)
     
  7. kinetic

    kinetic Webmaster

    Most people with red sea 170's (reefer or e) seem to use Bubble Magus Curve 5 with success. There's a DC pump version of it, though people say it's not as good and creates far too many bubbles.

    I am using a Simplicity 120 DC. It's quiet, looks nice, but my tank is still only a week into the cycle so it's not doing much (dead/dry rock and sand). I've seen others with good success. it's fairly cheap and has a DC pump so you can adjust the flow, bypass, and air all at the same time. A few other people I know have it on their Reefer 170 systems as well.
     
  8. scuzy

    scuzy Supporting Member

    I have a bubble Magus curve 5 for sale. I'm currently lending it to Gabe.


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  9. revnull

    revnull Supporting Member

    How much are you asking for the Curve 5?
     
  10. Klems

    Klems Supporting Member

    I have a Skimz sn123 and it is working great. Nice and quiet and pulls out some good dark gunk. I think I got it for like 150 last year during black Friday sales at BRS.
     
  11. roostertech

    roostertech reef noob

    I went out and bought the same container from Walmart. I was gonna get some BRS compact 1g but this is waaaaay cheaper AND clear.
     
  12. scuzy

    scuzy Supporting Member

    Pm me


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  13. revnull

    revnull Supporting Member

    As I get closer to finally starting the cycle on this tank (BRS dry rock shipment arrives in 2 days) I'm starting to put more thought into the logistics of having very little room in the cabinet. There is no way that my 5gal RO/DI container would fit so I just reconciled that it would live next to my tank. then I started thinking about where to mount my apex and other electronics. I've seen others use an additional cabinet on the side to mount additional gear so I started searching but couldn't find anything with the correct internal dimensions.

    This weekend I was cleaning the garage and came across an old Biocube 14 I bought a couple of years ago and just stashed away. The stand seems to be a perfect fit.

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    The top off container fits great in the lower half and the upper half leaves more that enough room for my Apex and other things I haven't thought of yet.

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    I told my wife that my hoarding finally paid off. :D
     
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  14. kinetic

    kinetic Webmaster

    So perfect!

    For the controllers and such, you can get a marker board or something similar and cut to size. Then mount everything on the marker board so you don't have to drill into the walls of the stand. Easier to pull out to hit some buttons with (just give enough slack on the chords).
     
  15. revnull

    revnull Supporting Member

    My rock has arrived! Packed very well.

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    Time to start bleaching. I've read 10:1 for 24hrs. Sun dry, followed up with a dechlorinator for a week. Any other tips from experienced bleachers?
     
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  16. scuzy

    scuzy Supporting Member

    I use a few cup of bleach and when tock OS white. Soak in ro water for s few days rinse repeat and ready to go.


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  17. scuzy

    scuzy Supporting Member

    If the rocks are dry why bother bleaching?


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  18. revnull

    revnull Supporting Member

    It's BRS pukani and loaded with dust, dirt, webs and other crud. Based on the following, after a good rinse, bleach seems to be a decent middle ground approach to ensuring the rock is not going to contribute to unchecked organics in the tank. But honestly, I figured it can't hurt so why not. :)

     
  19. scuzy

    scuzy Supporting Member

    Sound good. I toss mine in a before with a few cup of bleach and let it sit until white. Then rinse a few times and let it sit in before in fresh water and then its done.


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  20. revnull

    revnull Supporting Member

    My new return pump arrived yesterday.

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    It comes with slip fit adapters for 3/4", 1", & 1-1/4".

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    I'd like to build a return manifold to run reactor(s) in the future. I'd also like to plumb in an Apex flow sensor, but they only seem to come in 1/2" or 1". The return plumbing on the E-170 seems to be ~3/4" (whatever the metric equivalent is). I'm thinking of 1" PVC from the return pump to the main distribution points (core manifold) and 1" to 1/2" reduction "T"s that feed the gate valve regulated reactor outlets. Then one more 1" to 3/4" reduction fitting to feed the display return. (this all makes sense in my head, I swear!)
     
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