Tang police = ethical husbandry and propagation of marine life

Discussion in 'Fish and Invertebrates' started by Roc, Jul 17, 2010.

  1. tuberider

    tuberider Guest

    I agree 100% Rich, hopefully there's some sort of model that's at work and it can be replicated, especially since it's such a pristine area.
  2. anathema

    anathema Supporting Member

    Australia would be the candidate I would bring up.
  3. Roc

    Roc Guest

    As framing the corals, and the framing being beneficial?
  4. anathema

    anathema Supporting Member

    I'm confused as to what you mean by "framing".

    If you mean farming, no, but otherwise I'm lost.
  5. GDawson

    GDawson Guest

    New industry in wall art...hadn't you heard?

  6. yellojello

    yellojello Supporting Member

    That's what's so nice about BAR...

    Tang Police > Tazers > Orchids > Australian Art Framing
  7. GreshamH

    GreshamH Guest

    There is no farming of corals in Australia, it's all wild harvest. They use TOC policies to keep it in check.
  8. Roc

    Roc Guest

    Well I saw this comment from Rich

    To which you responded

    To which I responded

    *I have changed the framing to farming as that what I meant to say but my dyslexia gets in the way sometimes

    I thought that Rich was asking about harvesting and to me that means farming, now if theres another way like Gresham pointed out later called wild harvest, I was just unaware
  9. northbay-reefer

    northbay-reefer Honorary Member

    Rich is still dramatized by the frame I used on my tank :D

    I need the tang police to Write me a MAGNA ticket ... I wanna go :D
  10. jestersix

    jestersix Sponsor

  11. can you guys elaborated more regarding aussie or PNG are doing regarding harvesting corals?Thanks

  12. GreshamH

    GreshamH Guest

    There is no harvesting of coral in PNG. Make a new thread and I will reply in it about how the Aussies deal with coral collection :D This is the Tang Police Thread :lol:
  13. anathema

    anathema Supporting Member

    The way I read "properly managed harvest" does not exclude wild harvesting of corals. Yes, I believe from what I have read, not first hand knowledge, that Australia has a well managed harvest and it is beneficial in general. If I'm wrong please let me know.

    I actually fully support the wild harvest of corals, and strongly believe that in some places it is a much more environmentally sound practice than farming them. I also think that current wild harvest practices are needlessly wasteful and could definitely be improved. One of my "never gonna happen but would be nice" ideas would be to require that a part of every colonial coral harvested be left behind to regrow. Yes, I know that's a logistical nightmare, but it would be nice.
  14. GDawson

    GDawson Guest

    From what I've read in the past the ricordia harvesting off Florida is handled that way....

  15. GreshamH

    GreshamH Guest

    How so given they only collect single polyps with no substrate attached?
  16. GDawson

    GDawson Guest

    They don't collect all the polyps from the colony/grouping. They always leave some to regrow the group. Additionally, if the group only has a couple of polyps they bypass until a later date.

    I'll look for the article I read will post it back here......

  17. GreshamH

    GreshamH Guest

    10:1 the article is from a certain lady that is now in jail for illegal collection and exportation of Ricordea florida. If it is, do not put any weight on that marketing piece as that is purely what it is and has zero actual substance.

    That's not in the regs IIRC but rather maybe what some divers do on their own. Easily answered by checking the Florida regs for anyone that cares enough to look it up (I don't)
  18. GreshamH

    GreshamH Guest

    For shits and giggles I sent an email to the largest dealer in ricordea (on the collection/wholesale side). He said there is no reg requiring such an action as it could not be enforced. Some divers may practice that, and they should, but it's not a regulation.
  19. tuberider

    tuberider Guest

    G, my understanding (correct me if I'm wrong) is that if the substrate is larger than a certain size (IIRC 1/2"X1/2") then it is not legal to "export from Florida". Haiti OTOH is different (and we know a little about that source and his permits), you can have a fist sized rock and it's OK. That's where it gets dicey, how do you tell... At a certain point, who's to say?

    Yep, here we go with the same discussion (on and on), what a PITA gray area is, right? Things get mixed in with other things, garbageland, kittyland love center, Ricky's used shit, piss jugs, it all becomes a blurr....
  20. GreshamH

    GreshamH Guest

    That's who I spoke with J :lol:

    I seem to remember the whole 1/2" deal not being true and none was actually allowed but it's been a while.... your right, it does get mixed up in garbageland, kittyland love center, etc :lol:

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