Turkeysammich
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Dunno if you know. Afr is not alk so when you dose it. The real reading is 3 days later. It’s not instant like alk.
Innovative Marine Fusion 20 Long in Brentwood
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WillU
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Ah good to know! I was doing 2 part before so will make sure to test 3 days later and not make any adjustments until then. Thank you!
It's more so for daily dosing, not for any type of Corrective type dosing. As it has alk magnesium and calcium. you have no ability to adjust a single valve alone.
It's what I dose 90%+ of the time with dosing pumps. I also have esv bionic 2 part for specific adjustments to a single value maybe once a month. Once things are balanced out. Afr is what keeps them stable for the most part. Though levels do tend to drift out of balance in time hence the occasional adjustment dose.
WillU
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Got it so you're saying I should use my 2 part to get to the levels I'd like then figure out my AFR dose to keep those levels? Then do an adjustment dose as needed?
I've been using afr for 2+ years now. That's my method. I probably test once maybe twice a month now.
To find out the daily dose you need to get things balanced (adjusted with maybe 2 part). To start with than, test a few days in a row to get trends of your element uptake as in what gets used every day. After a few days you will know example tank goes down 2 dkh a day so you will use afr to replace that 2 dkh per day to keep things stable.
Keeping in mind afr isn’t instant as mentioned in the post above. So takes daily testing for a period of time. To get it right before you can dial back on testing and ride it out.
Use the formula on bottle as a base line and adjust does up or down slightly until it holds steady for several days.
Takes a little bit to dial in dose right. But once dosing is dialed it your set for a while and it's super easy. I only adjust my dosing pumps like every few months by a few mils.
Though my tank is mostly sps acros I refer to, so here so being stable matters alot more and much easier for swings to happen as growning sps takes up lots of alk calc and mag. So testing for me these days is just ensuring I stay stable and adjust when needed.
WillU
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Thank you so much! This is super helpful
Turkeysammich
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I’ll add one more thing. You need to skim well. According to Dong Zou. It’s actually a form of carbon dosing. He goes into it deeper on the reefers network on YouTube if your interested
WillU
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Got a couple more things cleaned up and added some additional pieces of equipment.
Bought a used Ecotech battery backup for $30 and replaced the battery for another $30 and picked up a dosing pump to dose AFR. Going to start with 2.5ml daily and see how that goes, I have 2 part that I dose manually to get to the levels I want and then hopefully can dial in the AFR to keep things steady.
Also added a float valve in my ATO so I get notified when it gets low. The app has been a bit annoying so still trying to get the notifications dialed in.
Bought a used Ecotech battery backup for $30 and replaced the battery for another $30 and picked up a dosing pump to dose AFR. Going to start with 2.5ml daily and see how that goes, I have 2 part that I dose manually to get to the levels I want and then hopefully can dial in the AFR to keep things steady.
Also added a float valve in my ATO so I get notified when it gets low. The app has been a bit annoying so still trying to get the notifications dialed in.
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Which battery did you go with?
WillU
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This one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078PXCH9M?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_3&th=1
Fit exactly like the original and tested it and everything works well. There was a coupon when I bought it making it $36, I think there is still a 10% coupon for it now.
Is this battery back up easy to set up?
I'm wondering how long will these run return pumps for.
I've seen them around for sale used. But I honestly don't know much about them.
Considering if it's worth the investment. Do they have to be used with ecotech retun pumps or will any return pumps work?
I ask because main 40gal sps tank has ecotech s1 pump. Yet my 210gallon has 2 jaebo pumps.
WillU
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I set it up with my MP10 but needs an adapter for vectra pumps. I'd image that it should work with any 12v pump but I didn't try it. It was plug and play no drama with the vortech controller, once power is cut it turns on the MP10 at 20% and supposed to run for 60-72hrs.
Either way, I think buying a used one cheap and replacing the battery is the only way I'd do it. New they are just too expensive.
I actually fit a 20ah one in mine, you can go bigger! https://www.bareefers.org/forum/threads/thomas-29g-truvu.31938/post-486315
@MichaelB it's really easy to do the swap, that link shows how I did it. Find someone giving away their "dead" Vortech battery. You'll need the connector cable and the power cable too.
WillU
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Oh sweet! I may go bigger when this battery dies haha
Yeah definitely switch to the LiFePO4 chemistry that I used, way safer and will last a decade. It's also way lighter too.