Little clownfish culls?
- Thread starter Thales
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Bring it back bf you consider that
Kensington Reefer
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I love this!
Thales
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There seems to be some awkwardness around this post that I can try to clear up.
Clownfish breeders regularly cull fish that are not sellable for various reasons. Instead of wasting that resource, it seems to me that they could be better used to feed marine predators, instead of using freshwater animals or, worse, imported wild saltwater animals. I understand why breeders don't want to sell culls - they may be sold as pets by nefarious folks - which is why I ask because people know I will not be reselling anything. I am not asking for individual clownfish, I am asking about fish that are going to be killed anyway.
I was given a Histro histro (I am a sucker) that is not wanting to eat prepared foods, and if you have ever tried putting freshwater fish into saltwater to feed a predator, you know how horrible that goes if the fish is not eaten immediately.
Sorry for any confusion.
Clownfish breeders regularly cull fish that are not sellable for various reasons. Instead of wasting that resource, it seems to me that they could be better used to feed marine predators, instead of using freshwater animals or, worse, imported wild saltwater animals. I understand why breeders don't want to sell culls - they may be sold as pets by nefarious folks - which is why I ask because people know I will not be reselling anything. I am not asking for individual clownfish, I am asking about fish that are going to be killed anyway.
I was given a Histro histro (I am a sucker) that is not wanting to eat prepared foods, and if you have ever tried putting freshwater fish into saltwater to feed a predator, you know how horrible that goes if the fish is not eaten immediately.
Sorry for any confusion.
grizfyrfyter
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There used to be a breeder in Stockton who had thousands. I lost track of them after leaving fb
Now that I'm not working in wildfire response anymore, I'm looking forward to trying to breed clown fish. I'm moving this month and will have a fish room.
Now that I'm not working in wildfire response anymore, I'm looking forward to trying to breed clown fish. I'm moving this month and will have a fish room.
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I understood what you were asking for and assumed most did. In hind sight i didn't think he did given his post. I probably also should have explained the difference.
Maybe try reaching out to Robin @fingerwrinkles he's the only one I know thats still breeding clownfish regularly or Derrick D-Nak in Alameda breeds sometimes.
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Wow
Some names from the past…
PjFish
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I’ve caught hundreds of ghost shrimps on the mud flats around Breakwater beach in Alameda and other areas. I wonder if the angler would go for them or any other local live bait? Grass shrimp, Pile Worms etc..just a thought…Or theirs a fishing bait shop close to you over the bridge in Oakland on 14th that normally carries live ghost shrimp and pile worms to avoid muddy feet! Always loved those fish super cool good luck!
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grizfyrfyter
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Isn't this the same problem as freshwater bait? The temp difference is going to kill the bait if the predator fish doesn't find it in time?
If it's angler fish they are ambush predators meaning the fish need to swim near them. They won't chase them down like other predators. So it would ideally be a saltwater fish that won't die in mins just due to tank conditions temperature or trying to use a freshwater bait fish.
PjFish
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When I lived in Florida we came across these all the time especially in the spring in the Keys. I never brought them home but several people did for their aquariums since they were one of the easiest fish to catch..
Histro Histro in my opinion are more on the active side and better swimmers then their cousins. They have a larger tail and normally floating in grass on the move vs crawling on rocks or sand like other frogs. However once they get large Ive seen them more often down low blending into the substrate/ macro algae not sure if this because their in enclosed system or natural progression....Ive observed them eating all types of marine worms i, thawed silver sides and mixed frozen seafood which they actively swim to gulp down. Reminded me of a puffer or lyon always watching and tracking your movements. Im sure some can be picky and need to be target fed at first but after that will definitely swim and chow frozens.
The local ghost shrimp (mud shrimp) the one with one large claw do prefer colder water but probably be okay for a day or two in tank.. better if you gradually brought them up to temp within a couple hours. Ive kept them alive for 4-5 days in buckets with sand about 3 inches deep plus air stone just in the garage with outside air temp in low 80’s. 100% Bay water change on 3rd days fortunately bay water is only ten min walk away. Normally Id just toss them in the fridge in tupperware no water which is better but was lazy and used them striper fishing later.. Some didn’t make it parcor!..Our local Bay shrimp ( grass shrimp) are super hardy and can be fine in low 80’s water temp..Ive tossed them in my sump after a days fishing trip which they naturally increased up temp just stored in styrofoam take out containers with damp paper towels. They were in their a month before I had a chance to use them fishing again .. Of course had some loses mainly the tiny ones.. Im sure numerous reefers have kept grass shrimp in their tanks for puffers, lyon fish etc. My Dads girlfriend loved them used to toss them in Jeow Som sauce alive so kept them on the down low lol.. Our local non native pile worms totally fine which are even thriving in Waikiki Bay non native there. What frog couldn’t resist a worm!!
Also Sargassum muticum (wire weed) has been invading our bay and coastline for a while now which also grows in tropical water temp in Florida..Growing on a lot of the docks and shoreline and will most likely see a bunch at Stinson Beach fishing tomorrow. This stuff attaches to things unlike its cousin who grows in huge mats and messes up beaches..Outa the wrabbit hole now!!
Histro Histro in my opinion are more on the active side and better swimmers then their cousins. They have a larger tail and normally floating in grass on the move vs crawling on rocks or sand like other frogs. However once they get large Ive seen them more often down low blending into the substrate/ macro algae not sure if this because their in enclosed system or natural progression....Ive observed them eating all types of marine worms i, thawed silver sides and mixed frozen seafood which they actively swim to gulp down. Reminded me of a puffer or lyon always watching and tracking your movements. Im sure some can be picky and need to be target fed at first but after that will definitely swim and chow frozens.
The local ghost shrimp (mud shrimp) the one with one large claw do prefer colder water but probably be okay for a day or two in tank.. better if you gradually brought them up to temp within a couple hours. Ive kept them alive for 4-5 days in buckets with sand about 3 inches deep plus air stone just in the garage with outside air temp in low 80’s. 100% Bay water change on 3rd days fortunately bay water is only ten min walk away. Normally Id just toss them in the fridge in tupperware no water which is better but was lazy and used them striper fishing later.. Some didn’t make it parcor!..Our local Bay shrimp ( grass shrimp) are super hardy and can be fine in low 80’s water temp..Ive tossed them in my sump after a days fishing trip which they naturally increased up temp just stored in styrofoam take out containers with damp paper towels. They were in their a month before I had a chance to use them fishing again .. Of course had some loses mainly the tiny ones.. Im sure numerous reefers have kept grass shrimp in their tanks for puffers, lyon fish etc. My Dads girlfriend loved them used to toss them in Jeow Som sauce alive so kept them on the down low lol.. Our local non native pile worms totally fine which are even thriving in Waikiki Bay non native there. What frog couldn’t resist a worm!!
Also Sargassum muticum (wire weed) has been invading our bay and coastline for a while now which also grows in tropical water temp in Florida..Growing on a lot of the docks and shoreline and will most likely see a bunch at Stinson Beach fishing tomorrow. This stuff attaches to things unlike its cousin who grows in huge mats and messes up beaches..Outa the wrabbit hole now!!
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