Kensington Reefer
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At least 10 Aqua Logic and Ranco here, regardless of heater size, 25watt to 800 watt
20+ years
My first Fish copper Qt treatment
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20+ years
No. Following this. I will add titanium grounding probes to the tanks however.
It's a older apartment. And getting those added is far beyond my means especially as a tenant.
They have them only in the bathrooms and kitchen.
I have an extra grounding probe if you want. However who knows if it actually will do much.
That would be awesome would cover my 3 tanks with fish. I ordered two. A few days ago.
I can't say they do anything from experience but I figure it's better than having nothing at all. In terms of a ground.
Titanium grounding probes require you to have a grounded (3 prong) outlet which is connected to a properly grounded circuit. My guess is you're connecting your power strips to a 2 prong outlet via an adapter, and then connecting all your 3 prong power cords to the power strip? In that case the grounding probe will not do anything, except maybe trick you or others that it is doing something, and catch you in a bad way.
Grounding requires an entire electrical setup to be in place. It usually starts with a rod hammered into the ground outside your house, connected to an electrical circuit box, which has 3 strand wires running from it, to the outlets and lights and switches throughout the house.
2 prong outlets are all you need for delivering power, but are not grounded. That's the old standard from a long time ago. The new standard is grounded circuits, but again getting there fully requires a large rewiring job of a place.
You can however get safety improvements by installing a 3-prong, GFCI outlet, and leave it ungrounded. That can reduce the chances of getting major electrical shocks, because the outlet should trip when that happens, but doesn't actually ground anything.
That all may not mean anything to you, but if you Chatgpt/Gemini for info about 2-prong, ungrounded, outlets and dealing with a saltwater tank you'd likely get a bunch of info. Ask it to explain it in simple terms.
My experience with this was previously having a bunch of old electrical, and separately having a similar issue once with a 3d printer. Turned out the outlet I was using hadn't been installed right, and wasn't grounded, so the small amount of current it was leaking into the frame could shock me. Once grounded that went away (let's ignore the bad state that it shouldn't have been leaking current).
Grounding requires an entire electrical setup to be in place. It usually starts with a rod hammered into the ground outside your house, connected to an electrical circuit box, which has 3 strand wires running from it, to the outlets and lights and switches throughout the house.
2 prong outlets are all you need for delivering power, but are not grounded. That's the old standard from a long time ago. The new standard is grounded circuits, but again getting there fully requires a large rewiring job of a place.
You can however get safety improvements by installing a 3-prong, GFCI outlet, and leave it ungrounded. That can reduce the chances of getting major electrical shocks, because the outlet should trip when that happens, but doesn't actually ground anything.
That all may not mean anything to you, but if you Chatgpt/Gemini for info about 2-prong, ungrounded, outlets and dealing with a saltwater tank you'd likely get a bunch of info. Ask it to explain it in simple terms.
My experience with this was previously having a bunch of old electrical, and separately having a similar issue once with a 3d printer. Turned out the outlet I was using hadn't been installed right, and wasn't grounded, so the small amount of current it was leaking into the frame could shock me. Once grounded that went away (let's ignore the bad state that it shouldn't have been leaking current).
They are only in the bathroom and kitchens. Everywhere else is 2 prong.
I saw a video however saying i can replace just to outlets to 3 prong gfi outlets labeled as non equipment ground and would offer a margin of safety.
Right now I'm forced to use. These things through the whole house.
And I have power strips plugged in using those adapters to be able to plug up 3 prong items.
Based on video seems better to consider no equipment grounded gfi outlets verse the adapters I've been using for 10 years.
Turning off breakers and swapping a outlet is definitely within my skill ability. Running wires to the breaker box would be where I'd draw the line.
Ok so as of now heaters have been replaced in qt tanks and I don't feel anymore tingling or current in the tanks.
I will give things until over night to ensure things are running legit and heaters are holding temps. If they check out tomorrow I will look at adding fish tomorrow.
I will give things until over night to ensure things are running legit and heaters are holding temps. If they check out tomorrow I will look at adding fish tomorrow.
PizzaOven
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Just cheap-o's. They work great for car stuff and small electrical projects around the house... but not for checking stray voltage in water:
To eliminate induced voltage readings, you'd need something with a Low Z mode like this Fluke-117:
At $300 I can't really justify buying one for occasional use
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PjFish
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Whats your smart multimeter read now?
I honestly didn't test again. Beyond putting my hand in the tanks.
It was very clearly rhe heaters through the testing. Lol but since you asked I will likely be testing them again. Maybe my other tanks as well.
PjFish
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No worries just curious glad you resolved