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Tank Parameters all over the place

I think I told him about @Thales tank which had at one point 6? Or something? ppm phosphate, which did not prevent it from looking gorgeous and keeping its inhabitants very happy

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tribbitt said:
I think I told him about @Thales tank which had at one point 6? Or something? ppm phosphate, which did not prevent it from looking gorgeous and keeping its inhabitants very happy

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Yea his tank is coughs is just different prob has crap in there older than me lmao. So not typical or should be expected for most with high po4. That tank is fully mature to the point some items he has would be considered ancient. In addtion to his experience in the hobby not easily rivaled by even experienced reefers.

Granted if you don't have a sps dominated take high po4 isn't a death sentence. Though overall things will be happier in a appropriate range.

My tank was at 1.5 + for first 2 years all sps stayed brown while other coral looked happy. When I got things In Range everything just took off a d thrived in the tank. When I hit the 2 year mark things really shifted as in a positive way as well. When the tank really started maturing.
 
MichaelB said:
Yea his tank is coughs is just different prob has crap in there older than me lmao. So not typical or should be expected for most with high po4. That tank is fully mature to the point some items he has would be considered ancient. In addtion to his experience in the hobby not easily rivaled by even experienced reefers.

Granted if you don't have a sps dominated take high po4 isn't a death sentence. Though overall things will be happier in a appropriate range.

My tank was at 1.5 + for first 2 years all sps stayed brown while other coral looked happy. When I got things In Range everything just took off a d thrived in the tank. When I hit the 2 year mark things really shifted as in a positive way as well. When the tank really started maturing.
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Valid points. I was just thinking who wants to wait two years for things to look great. But it is ‘a’ strategy.
 
MichaelB said:
Yea his tank is coughs is just different prob has crap in there older than me lmao. So not typical or should be expected for most with high po4. That tank is fully mature to the point some items he has would be considered ancient. In addtion to his experience in the hobby not easily rivaled by even experienced reefers.

Granted if you don't have a sps dominated take high po4 isn't a death sentence. Though overall things will be happier in a appropriate range.

My tank was at 1.5 + for first 2 years all sps stayed brown while other coral looked happy. When I got things In Range everything just took off a d thrived in the tank. When I hit the 2 year mark things really shifted as in a positive way as well. When the tank really started maturing.
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Yeah he’s not the average reefer. Only point being that phosphate is not some kind of villain that needs to be quashed to 0.01ppm always
 
tribbitt said:
Yeah he’s not the average reefer. Only point being that phosphate is not some kind of villain that needs to be quashed to 0.01ppm always
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Seriously!!! trying to get there would only get you dinos when you bottom out. Long as I'm at .2 or under I'm happy in the sps tank. Other tanks under 1.0 I'm content.

I don't even try to play chase the numbers to get into single digits nor would I recommend it. Great if you can, but its much easier easy to bottom out trying.
 
tribbitt said:
Yeah he’s not the average reefer. Only point being that phosphate is not some kind of villain that needs to be quashed to 0.01ppm always
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The risk of phosphate going below the margin of error of the hobby tester is actually a risk that needs to be managed.

At higher amounts, PO4 is a villain that needs to be quashed to stay within 0.05-0.15 mg/L (max).
 
This has become such a fun thread :). We are clearly covering all possible opinions around water parameters in general and nutrient levels in particular.

If I had to do a poll, I believe 80%+ are probably in camp not to worry about nutrients.

We also seem to strongly believe in LC as a best practice in reducing phosphate.

Shocking, but this seems to be the general consensus.
 
Alexander1312 said:
This has become such a fun thread :). We are clearly covering all possible opinions around water parameters in general and nutrient levels in particular.

If I had to do a poll, I believe 80%+ are probably in camp not to worry about nutrients.

We also seem to strongly believe in LC as a best practice in reducing phosphate.

Shocking, but this seems to be the general consensus.
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I'm more with gfo. To nervous of lanthanum and it reportedly killing fish according to some accounts. Mainly i don't trust myself not to screw up somthing so I personally only use gfo at present.
 
MichaelB said:
I'm more with gfo. To nervous of lanthanum and it reportedly killing fish according to some accounts. Mainly i don't trust myself not to screw up somthing so I personally only use gfo at present.
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Same here; or the equipment to fail. Seems to be too many moving parts to get the effect right. I did use it before and it works.
 
Alexander1312 said:
If I had to do a poll, I believe 80%+ are probably in camp not to worry about nutrients.
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not a bad idea actually to do a poll after so many people have shared their success stories about what worked for them over so many years :D

Quick update, a day after another 20% (40gallon) water change.. Phosphates registered at 1.67 (down from 1.88).. Ordered Nitrate reagents but will be delivered to me around 17th

Very preliminary analysis based off the last 3 tests I did:

1.85 ppm --> 2 ml LC for 4 days --> 1.88 ppm --> 20% water change + 2ml LC for 2 days --> 1.67 ppm

  • Seems like water changes as expected are helping reduce the phosphates
  • As a fellow reefer suggested, LC at 2 ml can at max help with damage control, I plan to dose 2*2ml doses from today onwards to see if that makes a difference.
Again, very premature analysis, but sharing what it feels like to me today. May change in near future. Short term plan stays the same as stated before + doubling the LC dosage.
 
This thread is TLDR, but just wanted to say after watching Melevsreef a few years back I've been dosing Phosphate RX directly into my tank full of tangs with no filter sock for 3+ years. I dose at night so I don't see a cloudy tank. Works great. Have never had a tang suffocate due to dosing Phosphate RX.
 
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