Vermetid snail quarantine. How long before they stop spawning?

[MikiCab]

Long story short. Bought some corals and the Candy Cane had vermetid snails. I crushed them with pliers and dug them out with exacto blade and check it every couple of weeks and they keep coming back. Been doing this for about 60 days now. It is quarantined until I don't see anymore.
Thank you in advance
Richard

 

[anizato]

dose coral snow regularly, all the vermetids in the tank should die in a matter of weeks.

 

[L/B Block]

dose coral snow regularly, all the vermetids in the tank should die in a matter of weeks.

Why does coral snow do to them?
My tank is loaded with them. I kill the ones I can..

 

[MikiCab]

Why does coral snow do to them?
My tank is loaded with them. I kill the ones I can..

I am not an expert but I think they pull it into their shells and starve to death because they are loaded up with it instead of food. They cannot digest it.

 

[MichaelB]

Get about 8 bumble snails crush the vermatids when you see them. The bumble bees will eat the small ones. I don't have any vermatids in my main sps tank with just 4 bumblebees. My other tanks that don't have them have vermatids everywhere.

I would also point out it's not really possible to avoid getting vermatids. Best you can hope for is to control them. They can be incredibly tiny you wouldn't see them on visible inspection.

I just bought 4 for my frag tank from aquatic collection earlier today.

Neptunes normally has them as well as most lfs.

Quarantine for vermatid snails is also not really a viable method, any coral with skeleton or the tiniest bit of a frag plug can have them on it.

Below is a a post from another fourm with a discussion about them, there are utube videos available as well.

Bumblebee Snails to control/eradicate Vermetid Snails | Reef2Reef https://share.google/FLQLhSZ5mRYfpz8Nt

 

[L/B Block]

I am not an expert but I think they pull it into their shells and starve to death because they are loaded up with it instead of food. They cannot digest it.

Interesting. I use all for reef -which is calcium carbonate. I only really see them spawn when I kick up a lot of stuff from the sandbed.. but I know they still are living as corals wil grow around their shells and leave the opening.

 

[anizato]

Why does coral snow do to them?
My tank is loaded with them. I kill the ones I can..

it suffocates them when they try to catch all the debris coral snow is dragging away, they reel it in and the coral snow clumps in their feeding hole and they die.

 

[Kensington Reefer]

it suffocates them when they try to catch all the debris coral snow is dragging away, they reel it in and the coral snow clumps in their feeding hole and they die.

do you have evidence of this or are you surmising?

 

[Darkxerox]

Interesting. I use all for reef -which is calcium carbonate. I only really see them spawn when I kick up a lot of stuff from the sandbed.. but I know they still are living as corals wil grow around their shells and leave the opening.

All for reef is calcium formate plus trace elements.

 

[L/B Block]

All for reef is calcium formate plus trace elements.

Stand corrected!

 

[anizato]

do you have evidence of this or are you surmising?

evidence? yes your honor, i'll present my evidence at the hearing.
a quick google search can save you the trouble of sounding douchey
i've done it myself after having taken advice from an advanced reefer that did the same in their tank.

 

[Kensington Reefer]

evidence? yes your honor, i'll present my evidence at the hearing.
a quick google search can save you the trouble of sounding douchey
i've done it myself after having taken advice from an advanced reefer that did the same in their tank.

glad to hear that there’s an easy solution to those pesky snails

 

[Darkxerox]

I've found hemostats work well for crushing them. Haven't seen them take hold in my main tank. Not sure if that's the copperband or the urchins keeping them in control.

 

[Coral reefer]

evidence? yes your honor, i'll present my evidence at the hearing.
a quick google search can save you the trouble of sounding douchey
i've done it myself after having taken advice from an advanced reefer that did the same in their tank.

Chill man! It’s not ok to ask if something is a scientifically known thing or something someone told you or something you think to be true from personal experience?
A lot of times in reefing people believe things that aren’t always true, or can be mistaken about why something happened.
Nobody called you out or said you were wrong.
We are all friends here. Let’s try to remember it!

 

[PjFish]

evidence? yes your honor, i'll present my evidence at the hearing.
a quick google search can save you the trouble of sounding douchey
i've done it myself after having taken advice from an advanced reefer that did the same in their tank.

Was going to ask the roughly the same q’s since I just cut my finger on one of those *****! Had to tweeze out a piece then disinfect..Got the large ones that get over an inch and do crush them routinely. I stopped broadcasting coral food since I observed a direct correlation in numbers and growth. Appears you felt a bit bent from the question which was not the intention some people don’t rely on google.For someone starting their own family phyto business expected a more considerate reply from Dr.Pods!
Best of luck

 

[Thales]

do you have evidence of this or are you surmising?

We do not have evidence that this is actually what is happening, nor its efficacy. Given that we have about the same numbers of reports of it working and of it not working, I squint.

 

[Kensington Reefer]

We do not have evidence that this is actually what is happening, nor its efficacy. Given that we have about the same numbers of reports of it working and of it not working, I squint.

now we're talkin'!
thank you kindly, Master Yoda Reefkeeper

 

[Thales]

Also, I did the CC route for several weeks and saw no lessening of pests.

I break them in various ways and hit them with the laser if I cannot break them.

 

[MikiCab]

I just crushed the vermetid snails in quarantine. If the come back again I will try the coral snow method. Basically it is just powdered egg shells so I can put a few in the blender and the quarantine tank will be a nice test bed. Will give it a boil before I put it in to kill anything on the shells. So far, knock on wood, neither of my tanks have them that I can see.

 

[psidriven]

Basically it is just powdered egg shells so I can put a few in the blender and the quarantine tank will be a nice test bed. Will give it a boil before I put it in to kill anything on the shells.

Cool, I learned something new. My only concern is if the blender can turn the shells into a fine enough powder. I usually use the powdered chalk from homebrew stores. So please share your results.