Please Help Dinoflagellates Algae :-(

Discussion in 'Resources' started by Bginose94015, Jun 12, 2014.

  1. Bginose94015

    Bginose94015 Guest

    So my tank was up and cycling for about 5 weeks before I started adding corals. Corals have been in the tank for about 3 weeks now. I was looking at my tank this afternoon and noticed what looked like a piece of fine hair with a bubble at the end of it. I took a closer look and right to the left of that there was a huge amount of fine hair algae with bubbles in the string.

    As I type this I am getting more and more discouraged. I wanted to get a bigger tank already but not for this type of reason.

    I will try and get a pick tomorrow.

  2. tr1gger

    tr1gger Keyboard Cowboy

    New tank syndrome. Water changes, carbon and GFO. Don't get discouraged, get more information on how go fix it and figure out your tank ;)

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  3. Bginose94015

    Bginose94015 Guest

    I have been doing 10-20% water changes weekly. I just read so many horror stories about this type of algae.

    The reef cleaners guide pretty much says to start over when you have this algae. IF it start getting worse I will try dosing hydrogen peroxide. 1ml per 10 gallon seems to be the rule of thumb..

    PS: how do you like the artisan 2 100G. I was thinking of getting one once I get a little more comfortable with this tank.
  4. tr1gger

    tr1gger Keyboard Cowboy

    You can do much heavier water changes and even do a day or two of lights out. Peroxide may work, I have had good and bad experiences with it in the past.

    Are you running any carbon, GFO, chemipure?

    The tank is nice now cause of all the flaws in their craftsmanship that I had to fix. Read through my thread for more details.
  5. Bginose94015

    Bginose94015 Guest

    No GFO or anything. Just sump fuge. No sock either. Should I look into that ASAP?
  6. bluprntguy

    bluprntguy Webmaster

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  7. bondolo

    bondolo Supporting Member

    Get the phosphates down and manage your pH and alkalinity. Dinoflagelletes and cyano are in every tank. The only question is whether they have access to the nutrients to become a problem. If you do GFO or phosban resist the temptation to overdose. For a first dose I would use a half dose and change it out after a couple of days. If you crash the phosphates too quickly it can really stress the corals.
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  8. rygh

    rygh Supporting Member


    Priority #1 is testing, to see what is the real issue.
    PH + Alk + Calcium + Nitrates + Phosphates.
    Local BAR people will likely help if needed.

    Then fix the problem, SLOWLY AND CAREFULLY!!!
    It is already growing. There is no quick fix that will help. Sorry.
    But I guarantee there are quick fixes that will destroy your tank.

    What is the background of your rocks??
    It is very possible the the rocks are loaded with phosphates or organics, and leaching it out like crazy.
    Oddly, dry clean rock can be the worst, if it was gathered near farms, where they fertilize.
    That is good/bad news.
    It means short term, lots of work, but it will go away eventually.
  9. Bginose94015

    Bginose94015 Guest

    Water is as follows:
    PH 8.0 +- API
    Alk 8.4 Redsea
    Cal 350 Redsea
    Nitrate 5.0 ppm API
    Phosphate. No tester :(

    50 lbs dry rock from BRS
    7 lb seed live rock from Aqua exotic

    Just started 3 day lights out.

    Two little fishes 150 on order.

    Not sure what else to do. Just went to Aqua Exotic and didn't see any Dino in any of their tanks.

    My outbreak is not huge maybe 5-10 long hais with 20-30 really short hairs. They all have bubbles int eh middle begging and end of the hairs.

    Any other recommendations are highly welcome. Any one local to san mateo that would like to stop by and give me some input it would be very much appreciated.


  10. rygh

    rygh Supporting Member

    Are you going to the meeting tomorrow?
    I could bring my phosphate tester. You could bring some tank water.

    Can you remove the rock the algae is on and kill it?
    (pop the corals off, temporarily super-glue to something)

    Nitrates are surprisingly high for a new tank with 10-20% water changes.
    My bet is the rocks had a LOT of organics in them.
    Fix that through water changes. Maybe 30% per week for a couple of weeks.
    Remember to count sump for percentages.
  11. Bginose94015

    Bginose94015 Guest

    Been doing 10-20% wc's weekly. I want to make the meeting so bad but thw wife works which means I am on baby duty. I bonded all of my rock together so I would need to remove all 50 pounds of it. I really appreciate the offer though
  12. Coral reefer

    Coral reefer President

    Siphon it out w changes. What is your lighting cycle like? I had this problem and decreased my photoperiod down to 7 hrs and it helped a lot. A few days w no lights, manual removal, and shorter photoperiod are the answers IMO. Carbon and gfo can't hurt either.
  13. Bginose94015

    Bginose94015 Guest

    Lighting cycle has been 12 hours plus. Right now on a three day black out. Will modify my lighting once the cardboard comes off. Will do a water change on monday @ 20% and suck out all of the dead dino hopefully. Fingers crossed everything is still alive on monday.
  14. Coral reefer

    Coral reefer President

    12 hours full intensity, what lighting do you have? That's way too much IMO, cutting it back should help!
  15. Bginose94015

    Bginose94015 Guest

    Kessil 350W. Current tank is 24 X 24 X 20. About 50% intensity each knob. Will try cutting back light after blackout period ends which will be tomorrow evening. GFO started today. Did half the normal amount. 1/2 cup of GFO instead of 1 cup.

    Thanks everyone for the help hope to have good results tomorrow evening.
  16. Bginose94015

    Bginose94015 Guest

    After 3 day no light all Dino gone. Not sure if the GFO helped or not but it is staying int he sump. Thanks for all the input everyone. Only casualties was one black foot snail.
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