Reef nutrition

Potassium Chloride K or Kcl

Pshh tell me about it. Mom and Pops both were "top of thier class", mom was All State, blah blah blah. Grandpa was a Nuclear Phycisist(sp?). Sister was top of her class in every school, skipping grades all along and now is a DVM Specialist (like the Phd of DVM). Me, got kicked out of High School :D
 
[quote author=tuberider link=topic=2679.msg36405#msg36405 date=1204753116]I said screw this where are the girls?[/quote]

Taking Business Administration :D

Though of all the science girls, the bio ones were the nicest :D
 
Around here (UCSC,MB area) we call them Dolphin girls (bio girls)
 
re amino acids. the one you want is L aspartic acid.
it makes sps grow faster and colors them up. not a magic
bullet and the dose is very very small.
 
The studies of free amino utitlization I have seen have shown mixed results of the uptake of free aminos aka may not really be doing anything helpful.
 
yes. my friend ShaunW on manhattan reefs (aka solbby) did the research on this. I would link to his info, but as luck would have it at this moment the site is having difficulties. Shaun has a PHD in micro biology, and works in a NYC hospital in a level 3 lab looking for a cure for TB. In other words he knows his biology.

He read a bunch of scientific papers about corals and amino acids after the blu coral method was brought up on RC. He found the one AA corals needed but could not produce themselves was L- aspartic acid. He experimented on his own tank and figured out the dosage. It's a very small amount, and I'll refer you to his thread, he's the man to ask any questions about it. I will say that it works and his tank is proof of it.

I began using fauna marins AA ultramin-S. It did color up the coral and give increased growth. However I stopped dosing after 6 months. It grew more algae than I liked. After some discussion we came to the conclusion the dosage given by fauna marin was too high. I will try it again in the near future, but at a much smaller amount.
 
well I can't find a thread where shaun details what he did, he does discuss it in this thread on the blue coral method. http://www.manhattanreefs.com/forum/coral-farming/22217-italian-blue-coral-method.html
 
Cool. Looking forward to reading up on it.

Just got our BSL3 lab up and running more or less. Also TB, as well as AIDS.

I'll have to say that I am severely underwhelmed by the quality of work by the design consultants.
 
All kind of crazy stuff.

The containment lab has an exit directly to a public space, for one.

The ventilation system relied on programmed software interlocks to maintain negative pressurization, and the algorithms didn't address quite a few modes of failure.

Control loops didn't directly measure what system was supposed to control to, so supply fans ramped to 100% thinking that exhaust was already up to speed.

Just all kinds of lame stuff....
 
They stopped inviting me to the project meetings because I kept asking all kinds of difficult questions.

After they went ahead and opened the lab, all kinds of systems stuff failed due to them not catching the stuff I was questioning.
 
If your buddy is still looking for a cure for TB you can tell him to look up isoniazid (INH), ethambutol, rifampin, and pyrazinamide...INH is usually the first administered, then followed by 2 or 3 of the others, with ethambutol being last due to sideeffects...Tx is usually 6 to 10 months unless it has gone untreated for a while. Secondary drugs can also be considered...glycosides or quinolones, such as the common cipro (ciprofloxacin) are popular second line Tx when resistace occurs...HTH
 
[quote author=jhale link=topic=2679.msg36466#msg36466 date=1204775880]
Did you get a chance to say "I told you so" ? :)
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Haha... I got so many chances that it wasn't fun anymore :D

Ventilation system has redundant exhaust fans with automatic failover. I asked if the system maintained pressure differentials during the failover. Turns out it didn't.

I asked if they verified the system conformed to the designed sequence of operations and shut down to failsafe mode if supply/exhaust fan control loops failed to control. Turns out that nobody checked. When they checked, they found that the system wouldn't auto shutdown.

Room pressure monitor for the containment lab showed positive pressure. Turned out that the monitor was defective. They replaced it and declared everything fixed after the monitor showed a proper reading. I asked if the monitor zeroed out when the room pressure equalized. Turned out that the replacement monitor also was defective and read -.05 at all times. Then they found that all the spare monitors had corrupted programming from the factory.

This was after the lab was put into service, so then none of the trades could go into the lab to do any repairs.

Eeeesh....
 
Sad, but sometimes my work is easy in that I go, "Hmmm... what lame thing might someone have done that would really screw things up?"

And when I go check, I find that's exactly what has happened.

It makes for entertaining stories to tell my friends, but it gets old after a while :D
 
well I guess I won't be visiting your lab :D

wow this went OT, sorry...

Patrick, thanks for the info, Shaun's been studying TB for a while now, I'm sure he knows all that.
I only remember part of what he tells me he does in the lab, much of it goes over my head, woosh.
I know they have different strains of TB they work with, it seems to mutate a lot.
Perhaps "cure" was the wrong phrase to use.
 
well, if you do a 10% water change every week, then the build up will be 10x the dose.

So lets say you have 1000ppm of X in a tank.
You dose 100 PPM per week

If you do a X% WC ever week, then assuming Zero uptake, the max level you will reach ever will be.
x%/Yppm

5% / 3000ppm
10% / 2000ppm
15% / 1666ppm
20% / 1500ppm


So the whole issue with buildup of sulfates depends on
1) uptake rate
2) waterchange rate/volume
3) natural variation in levels
4) our reef levels relative to natural levels
5) dose rate.

These things dictate if a buildup is a MAJOR or TRIVIAL factor. I think I may have to do a little research on these numbers later :)
 
[quote author=jhale link=topic=2679.msg36484#msg36484 date=1204786307]
well I guess I won't be visiting your lab :D

wow this went OT, sorry...

Patrick, thanks for the info, Shaun's been studying TB for a while now, I'm sure he knows all that.
I only remember part of what he tells me he does in the lab, much of it goes over my head, woosh.
I know they have different strains of TB they work with, it seems to mutate a lot.
Perhaps "cure" was the wrong phrase to use.
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A better cure more like it. From having a friend go thru this for nearly a year of treatment and what it did to his body I for one can say I sure hope there can be a better cure.
 
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