They are processing the light and turning it into energy for the coral. That is my understanding between their relationship. An interesting topic was corals expelling excess zooxanthellae due to the coral having an excess in their tissue. Too much light? Too many nutrients? Both? I honestly don't know. It just makes me curious about the difference in positions and logic which is why I brought it up.I do not understand what this means " the zooxanthellae does most of the work for the corals nutrients."
From my understanding nutrients can only be used via Photosynthesis via zooxanthellae.
I can prove it. I've swam every corner of the ocean. And I know who built the pyramids too!I dunno, is he right? If I tell you there's a leprechaun living in the center of the sun, can you prove me wrong?
Joking aside, I get your point. I also think you're missing my point. Anecdotes and ideas churn the gears that lead to testing, research, and innovation. It was just a different opinion. Had it come from someone you respect, would your position be different?
Tidal pools with exposed corals or under very few inches of water getting insane light with pristine water parameters we could never replicate. There are enough scientific papers on ocean water parameters that get published round the clock to point to. I think our corals are amazing at adapting to our individual tanks. So if I tried to replicate your scenario, I may find completely different outcomes.I know from my own personal tank I used to run crazy PAR (800+ for 12+ hours) and had insanely high nutrients - things were great, growing great, beautiful tank. Does that make him wrong? Does Chris have a scientific paper that supports his claims, or just anecdote?
And I'm sure like you mentioned, I'm certain he probably thinks they are idiots in their madness. LOLBecause my anecdote is different. There are experienced, successful growers of corals that have complete opposite viewpoints to Chris and think he's an idiot. Are they right?
I agree. It's an older tech and yet, LEDs cannot replicate a full spectrum. Only the appearance of one. So he's actually right in that regard. Metal halides with UV-a and UV-b specific applications are necessary for proper metabolic processes for reptiles as an example. Full spectrum bulb with the added benefit of heat. Cannot be (or has not been) replicated with LEDs to my knowledge.Re: Halides there are FAR, far more people with successful coral farms that are NOT using Halides than those that are.
I think the same way you're standing firm on LEDs. I think some corals look hideous under full spectrum, led or halides. But start adding some violets and deep blues and all of a sudden we get crazy pops of color. I love leds! I have T5s over a tank of sticks right now... and I'm not too crazy about the spectrum for viewing. BUT, they seem to be ok. PAR is lacking tbh, so I need to add some LEDs.Does that make Chris wrong? Maybe all kinds of lights work just fine, and the specific application is what matters? There are also people that live and die by T5s, and Radions. Some of the most beautiful tanks that exist in the hobby use LED lighting. So how can anyone say halides are "the best"?
Yup. I agree. I don't believe we will ever be able to get anywhere near what is occurring on a reef. We can certainly try... but I believe that is a foolish dream.I think 99% of the information out there is false, or at the very least not the full picture. There are examples of successful tanks that break nearly every dogmatic "rule" that exists in the hobby. So unless there's a scientific, peer-reviewed paper on the subject it's basically just anecdote and there are far too many variables not shared or not known or not understood to make many conclusions based on simple anecdotes.
IMO, it's great to try new things and consider other approaches to how we do things. It forces us to challenge our logic. Up until recently, you seemed quite firm on your stance of dosing kalk, if I remember correctly. Something in your logic shifted and now looking to change lanes. Why? Anecdotes observed by you or others? Or peer reviewed science that clearly points/indicates long term negative effects of kalk usage? I am in the same boat btw. Do I start dosing kalk because it's easier and economical for one of my new systems? Or do I try something completely new (to me) to test it out and get a firmer grasp on reefing with a different method?