Denzil's 40B with 20L Sump-Fuge

Discussion in 'Tank Journals' started by denzil, Aug 15, 2012.

  1. denzil

    denzil Webmaster

    Thanks to Brandie (goldielocke76), she finally converted me over to the dark side. As a result, I'm going to document the building of my nano tank as I acquire each and every component that contributes to my ultimate build. Of course, I'm sure some things will change as I learn more about the hobby but here's what I picked up from CL to start off.

    http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/for/3204109132.html

    I plan on using this for my sump-fuge. I've already done the internal measurements on the stand and this 20L easily fits under there. It's just a matter of whether I'm going to temporarily remove the rear support or just remove the top, refinish it, place the sump-fuge tank in place, and put the top back on. The next steps are to continue reading more about the hobby and keep my eyes peeled for the next time Petco does the $1/gallon sale on their tanks so that I can pick up a brand new 20L DT. In the meantime, I'll do some additional research on building the sump-fuge and planning how I'm going to drill out the plumbing holes in the stand and DT.

    Here are some additional pictures I took with my DSLR. The stand's definitely weathered and is going to need some work to get it into tip top shape.

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  2. And so it begins... ;)

    Seems you've got a grand master plan for it all, I am looking forward to seeing the progress on this tank!
     
  3. denzil

    denzil Webmaster

    As far as livestock is concerned, I'm thinking of a couple Perculas and a Sixline. I may have to get a Percula from ya at some point in the future. :)
     
  4. gimmito

    gimmito Supporting Member

    You are off to a good start Denzil ! You can buy glass from glass shop and have them cut to size/polish the edges for baffles and silicone them in place. I think I spent 30 bucks doing mine back in the day.
     
  5. Coral reefer

    Coral reefer President

    Acrylic works too if you can find thick enough scraps at tap. E6000 glue from tap works good for acrylic to glass
     
  6. denzil

    denzil Webmaster

    Yeah, I was actually thinking of doing acrylic for the baffles through TAP Plastics. However, I'm still working on figuring out how exactly to set the sump-fuge up. There are several different implementations out there.
     
  7. denzil

    denzil Webmaster

    I'm looking at several designs and I question the placement of the skimmer in the sump-fuge combo. I see several people place the skimmer in the trickle filter area or soon after and before the fuge. Is it more beneficial to have the skimmer before or after the fuge? I guess what I need to find out is exactly what the skimmer's removing and if what it's removing is beneficial to the fuge system. Do the pros/cons before the fuge outweigh the pros/cons after the fuge?

    Oh so much to continue reading about! Soon enough, I'll be a professor at this stuff, haha.
     
  8. denzil

    denzil Webmaster

    It seems like building a sump-fuge system very similar to the Aqueon ProFlex would be ideal. There aren't any design flaws that I'm aware of with this system. Maybe I could include additional baffles? I guess I just need to make sure I have enough space in the return area for the skimmer and return pump which shouldn't be a problem since I have 30" in length to work with.
     
  9. denzil

    denzil Webmaster

    I'm contemplating getting either the 700 GPH or 1500 GPH overflow kits from glass-holes.com. They seem like solid kits and would be a smaller footprint than running a traditional gravity-fed overflow kit.

    Any thoughts/comments on this?
     
  10. denzil

    denzil Webmaster

    I'm going to attempt to make this an actual journal by posting up any activity with the tank and just general learning of the hobby. This thread should prove to be a great reference for myself and possibly anyone else who may care to read it. :)
     
  11. denzil

    denzil Webmaster

    I just finished reading "The Nano-Reef Handbook" by Chris R. Brightwell and learned a lot more about tank chemistry, setup, live stock, invertebrates, and some setups based on solid templates. I now have a better idea of what I want to stock in my tank. Right now as far as sessile invertebrates, I'm thinking of Zoas, Ricordia, Xenia, Bubble-Tip, SPS, and a clam. I'm considering LPS as well but all of this is just me thinking out loud.

    I'm going to continue doing additional research at NR and RC in addition to starting another one of the books I picked up. I have an ongoing master plan/list of the equipment I'm going to need for my build. I need to tabulate what my estimated costs are going to be with whatever equipment I decide to use.
     
  12. gimmito

    gimmito Supporting Member

    You are on the right path D with research before actually buying anything. Many hobbyists place the skimmer after the fuge, thus giving rew tank water/nutrients to feed the fuge. If the skimmer is placed before the fuge, you are giving less nutrients to feed the fuge. Some hobbyist split the drain to feed the skimmer and fuge. It's all subjective and the Aqueon pro flex is a proven design.
     
  13. Coral reefer

    Coral reefer President

    I like split drains, skimmer one side fuge other, return middle!
     
  14. denzil

    denzil Webmaster

    Interesting... the possibilities are endless! Maybe I'll do two smaller overflow boxes instead of one larger one!
     
  15. Coral reefer

    Coral reefer President

    Or just tee off from one. Probably not worth drilling two holes in glass
     
  16. denzil

    denzil Webmaster

    Yeah, I might just do that instead.

    I didn't really spend any time on my tank planning/build this weekend but got Brandie's AC3 set up. We're just waiting on the remaining probes (ORP pH) and the Stunner strip before we start locking things down and doing cable management. Also going to set it up so it's manageable remotely through the web interface and mobile phone. Fun stuff!
     
  17. denzil

    denzil Webmaster

    I'm considering doing a 20L (30 x 12 x 12) rimless tank from Glasscages.com for $165 but Brandie's trying to convince me to get a 38g (36 x 12 x 16) for $170. If I get the 38g, that would leave me with 1.5" of tolerance between the tank and my stand.
     
  18. gimmito

    gimmito Supporting Member

    Go Bigger !
     
  19. goldielocke76

    goldielocke76 Supporting Member


    +1!!!! =D
     
  20. denzil

    denzil Webmaster

    I think the outer edges of the 38g would surpass the supporting partitions of the stand which could be a hazard. I think I'm going to stick with the 20L for now.
     

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